Hypothesis: Ultrasonic Frequencies May Cause Hearing Loss 
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 Hypothesis: Ultrasonic Frequencies May Cause Hearing Loss

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>Subject: Re: Hypothesis: Ultrasonic Frequencies May Cause Hearing Loss
>Keywords: ultrasonic tinnitus hearing loss
>Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 18:54:28 GMT
>I used to be able to hear some motion detectors, when I was younger.
>Dunno if I was hearing 'ultrasonics' or harmonics, but they did make my
>ears ring.  Your question  makes me wonder if I've really developed

That's VERY interesting.  IMO, if ANYTHING causes your ears to ring
temporarily, heavier or consistent doses of same will ultimately result in
permanent Tinnitus.  (Flame alert!)

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>tinnitus as my doctor things is 'normal with aging' or if I'm getting
>the ringing from outside sources.  Please keep posting what you find out.

GRADUAL loss of high frequency hearing, starting with that above 20 kHz+ as
an infant and ending with maybe all that above 8 kHz in old age is the
norm (another flame alert).  Heavy losses at lower frequencies are due to
what the industrialists dearly like to call "sociocusis" (the inevitable
noise exposure from "normal" societal noises such as that caused by
transporation and music).

Occupational (and public rock music) noise chews way on much of our 3kHz to
6kHz hearing, and this is something that industrialists do NOT like to talk
about.

Ang.

      /\/\/\/\/\/\/\ Sound Technology /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/



Sat, 19 Jul 1997 14:46:28 GMT
 Hypothesis: Ultrasonic Frequencies May Cause Hearing Loss

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>Subject: Hypothesis: Ultrasonic Frequencies May Cause Hearing Loss
>Keywords: ultrasonic tinnitus hearing loss
>Date: Thu, 19 Jan 1995 16:23:43 GMT
>Yesterday I was working on a device which, among other things,
>uses pulse-width modulation at around a 30 kHz rate to generate
>audio. My low-pass circuit wasn't working yet, so I connected the
>device directly to the speaker. I was hitting it with around 5 V
>peak-to-peak, but the sound wasn't very loud because PWM isn't a
>power-efficient way to generate audio.

My experience with soundof this frequency dates back to grad school.
I was only exposed to it for a few seconds at a time, while the door to an
ultrasonic siren was open (we used to demonstrate catching cottton on fire
by positioning it over the siren - door closed - (most of the time).

At that time, I perception was of a mild "pressure" on ly eardrums when I
knew it was only the 30 kHz I was being exposed to.

Essentially I've had no more exposure than that.  However, these days, I can
simulate that feeling by driving a pair of headphones with an audio
oscillator (if it puts out enough voltage)..

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>        When I went to bed my ears were ringing loudly, at a high
>pitch.
>        Hypothesis: Exposure to ultrasonic frequencies can cause
>tinnitus and/or hearing loss.

I think it can be considered to be just as damaging as some other sounds.

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>Obviously this is only anecdotal evidence and doesn't prove anything.
>But my ears tends to ring easily with exposure to loud noise (though

Was this "easy ringing" present before the 30 kHz exposures?

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>I haven't been having problems lately), so I may be a good test subject,
>sort of a canary in a coal mine.

How much time did you spend in "the mine"?  How many hours per day and how
many days?

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>Once a company I worked at decided to install ultrasonic motion sensors
>to turn off the lights automatically after people left the room. We
>tested them with a sound level meter capable of hearing ultrasonics,
>and the sound levels we found (in the neighborhood of 95 dB) would've

It IS in violation since the limit is 85 dB in those octave bands, though
teh company can argure that ON THE AVERAGE it had been less than 85 dB per
shift.

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>Today I ran a medline search. I only found one relevant article, but it
>is suggestive.

It's still too early.  Not only are MD's in a state of denial about
Tinnitus, but so also is the WHOLE industrial complex when it come to
ultrasonics.

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>Grzesik J; Pluta E
>Dynamics of high-frequency hearing loss of operators of
>industrial ultrasonic devices.
>Source:  Int Arch Occup Environ Health 1986;57(2):137-42

>They found that exposure resulted in high-frequency hearing loss of
>1 dB / year. (Note: this doesn't necessarily apply to medical diagnostic
>ultrasound, which uses much higher frequencies (in the mHz range).)

Medical ultrasound does it stuff in a liquid medium (in vitro?).
Very little energy is coupled into the air.  On the other hand, if one tries
to so an ultrasound on the skull near the cochlea, what can I day????
(I don't think it's done anywhere).

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>Ultrasonics are being used all over the place, for burgler alarms,
>motion sensors, etc. And ultrasonic pulse width modulation is often

Depends on the intensity: Registering more than 75 dB on a radio shack
meter, I'd be VERY wary.

Ang.

      /\/\/\/\/\/\/\ Sound Technology /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/



Sat, 19 Jul 1997 14:38:46 GMT
 Hypothesis: Ultrasonic Frequencies May Cause Hearing Loss

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>Subject: Re: Hypothesis: Ultrasonic Frequencies May Cause Hearing Loss
>Date: 19 Jan 1995 15:15:19 -0500
>Keywords: ultrasonic tinnitus hearing loss
>Interesting. Although not suffering any apparent damage, my daughter used
>to complain, as a {*filter*}-ager, about the high-pitched whine she would hear
>when shopping in some stores. She discovered that it was the theft-alarm
>in operation. Would that my hearing were as good as hers was then :-(

Burglar alarms run at about 22 kHz (maybe a bit higher).
Many youngsters easily hear this - infants even more so.

Cynically, I think that the frequency chosen depends on the age of the
design engineer; if he can't hear it, it's high enough!|:-)

Ang.

      /\/\/\/\/\/\/\ Sound Technology /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/



Sat, 19 Jul 1997 14:50:02 GMT
 Hypothesis: Ultrasonic Frequencies May Cause Hearing Loss

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>>Interesting. Although not suffering any apparent damage, my daughter used
>>to complain, as a {*filter*}-ager, about the high-pitched whine she would hear
>>when shopping in some stores. She discovered that it was the theft-alarm
>>in operation. Would that my hearing were as good as hers was then :-(
> Burglar alarms run at about 22 kHz (maybe a bit higher).
> Many youngsters easily hear this - infants even more so.

I used to be able to hear the intruder sensors, up until I was 20. I
didn't think it was as high as 22 kHz, but though it was right at the
edge of my hearing I did not like being in the store where I worked when
the system was on.  It felt a little like scratching a chalkboard.

Then I got a job working around NASA's wind tunnels and started
playing bagpipes.  Now those systems are no problem at all for me.

Eh?

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Mon, 21 Jul 1997 00:29:52 GMT
 
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