Frequent cold sores/canker sores [LONG REPLY W/CITATIONS]
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David Ri
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 Frequent cold sores/canker sores [LONG REPLY W/CITATIONS]
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>Are these sores on the mucosal surface of your mouth? Specifically, on the
>inside of your cheeks, lips, and on your gums? If so, I have a suggestion.
[citations about Lysine for HSV 1 deleted] The problem here is that HSV 1 is not responsible for aphthous stomatitis
(canker sores). It is responsible for cold sores on the lips (herpes
{*filter*}lis) and that's what the deleted articles were about.
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| Mon, 16 Sep 1996 00:48:12 GMT |
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Samuel C. Blackm
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Frequent cold sores/canker sores [LONG REPLY W/CITATIONS] Quote:
>>Are these sores on the mucosal surface of your mouth? Specifically, on the
>>inside of your cheeks, lips, and on your gums? If so, I have a suggestion.
>The problem here is that HSV 1 is not responsible for aphthous stomatitis
>(canker sores). It is responsible for cold sores on the lips (herpes
>{*filter*}lis) and that's what the deleted articles were about.
>David Rind
Sorry ... my mistake. I guess that it's a confusion in terminolgy. I've referred to canker sores as cold sores, and both as equal to HSV 1. So my next question is, what is responsible for apthous stomatitis? -- Sam
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| Mon, 16 Sep 1996 04:54:44 GMT |
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Chuck Rober
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Frequent cold sores/canker sores [LONG REPLY W/CITATIONS] I can also correlate that Lysine helps canker sores on the inside of the mouth and cold sores on the lips. I know several people who recommend it and say it works great. Other medical books I 've read also say it works. Other treatments for canker sores on the inside of your mouth are: (I
get them frequently)
- tannic acid from tea helps. Canker sore medicine usually contains
this.
- Protect the sore from irritation from acids (lemonade), spicy foods
(like mexican, indian).
- Drink lots of fluids.
- If you're tired, rest. Let your body heal itself.
- I think glycol or something like that, also helps. It's sold over the
counter in a small bottle, liquid form. Haven't seen it lately, I
looked for it in the fall 93.
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| Tue, 17 Sep 1996 14:21:47 GMT |
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David Ri
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Frequent cold sores/canker sores [LONG REPLY W/CITATIONS]
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>Sorry ... my mistake. I guess that it's a confusion in terminolgy. I've
>referred to canker sores as cold sores, and both as equal to HSV 1. So my
>next question is, what is responsible for apthous stomatitis?
The cause of aphthous stomatitis (canker sores -- the shallow ulcers that occur on the inside surfaces of the mouth) is not known. It is probably autoimmune, and their is some reason to think it may be an autoimmune problem triggered by a mouth bacterium such as a strain of alpha-hemolytic streptococcus, but no one is sure. Rinsing with antibacterials (such as tetracycline), seems to help prevent recurrences in some people who are prone to aphthous stomatitis, perhaps by killing off bacteria. -- David Rind
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Matthew Freedm
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Frequent cold sores/canker sores [LONG REPLY W/CITATIONS]
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>The cause of aphthous stomatitis (canker sores -- the shallow ulcers
>that occur on the inside surfaces of the mouth) is not known. It is
>probably autoimmune, and their is some reason to think it may be
>an autoimmune problem triggered by a mouth bacterium such as a strain
>of alpha-hemolytic streptococcus, but no one is sure. Rinsing with
>antibacterials (such as tetracycline), seems to help prevent recurrences
>in some people who are prone to aphthous stomatitis, perhaps by killing
>off bacteria.
Is this type of sore contagious, i.e. via kissing? Should it be thought of as an STD? -- Matt
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| Sun, 22 Sep 1996 07:32:59 GMT |
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ma..
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Frequent cold sores/canker sores [LONG REPLY W/CITATIONS]
Subject: Re: Frequent cold sores/canker sores [LONG REPLY W/CITATIONS] Date: 5 Apr 1994 23:32:59 GMT Organization: UW Networks and Distributed Computing
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>The cause of aphthous stomatitis (canker sores -- the shallow ulcers
>that occur on the inside surfaces of the mouth) is not known. It is
>probably autoimmune, and their is some reason to think it may be
>an autoimmune problem triggered by a mouth bacterium such as a strain
>of alpha-hemolytic streptococcus, but no one is sure. Rinsing with
>antibacterials (such as tetracycline), seems to help prevent recurrences
>in some people who are prone to aphthous stomatitis, perhaps by killing
>off bacteria.
Is this type of sore contagious, i.e. via kissing? Should it be thought of as an STD? -- Matt
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| Sun, 22 Sep 1996 08:32:59 GMT |
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I wanted to be a _lumberjack_
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Frequent cold sores/canker sores [LONG REPLY W/CITATIONS]
Quote: > I can also correlate that Lysine helps canker sores on the inside of the
> mouth and cold sores on the lips. I know several people who recommend it
> and say it works great. Other medical books I 've read also say it
> works.
It works wonders for me, too. The strange thing, is I have mentioned its use to every doctor since I
"discovered" Lysine 10+ years ago. Not one had ever heard of it.
If I detect a cold sore _starting_ to develop, I start taking Lysine.
It is very unusual that the sore actually develops fully. Normally
for me, they simply fade away.
Why is this not more widely known?
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| Tue, 24 Sep 1996 22:09:53 GMT |
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Doug Hillm
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Frequent cold sores/canker sores [LONG REPLY W/CITATIONS] Forgive me for jumping in late here, but All I have of this thread is the one article:
: > I can also correlate that Lysine helps canker sores on the inside of the
: The strange thing, is I have mentioned its use to every doctor since I
: "discovered" Lysine 10+ years ago. Not one had ever heard of it.
: Why is this not more widely known?
Can anybody givve me a synopsis or mail me the entire thread if it is
still around anywhere?
I often suffer from canker sores and have given up trying to find
anything that really works. I would be interested in knowing what the
general consensus is on the cause. From my own experience I find the
following factors linked in some way (listed in order I think the affect
me, most probably cause to least):
(1) Eating Choclate
(2) Stress
(3) Lack of sleep
(4) Excess amounts of citric acid
(5) Excess sweets (other then chocoalte)
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| Mon, 30 Sep 1996 02:22:06 GMT |
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Marc H Johns
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Frequent cold sores/canker sores [LONG REPLY W/CITATIONS] [Snippets of Lysine for treating Canker Sores thread deleted] [other stuff deleted] Quote: >From my own experience I find the >following factors linked in some way (listed in order I think the affect >me, most probably cause to least): >(1) Eating Choclate
>(2) Stress
>(3) Lack of sleep
>(4) Excess amounts of citric acid
>(5) Excess sweets (other then chocoalte)
Doug, I started using L-lysine to treat canker sores (Stomatitus) several years ago, with varying degrees of success. Having suffered from canker sores since age 11, I can definitely say the L-lysine helps. I have had the best luck when I take 200mg lysine 3-4 times a day, combined with zinc losenges (zinc citrate or zinc gluconate) and about 1000mg/day of vitamin C (250mg, 4 times a day). I also avoid the things on your list, but you should also stay away from peanuts. Hope this helps.
Marc
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| Mon, 30 Sep 1996 13:40:44 GMT |
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stu..
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Frequent cold sores/canker sores [LONG REPLY W/CITATIONS]
Quote: > [Snippets of Lysine for treating Canker Sores thread deleted] > [other stuff deleted] >>following factors linked in some way (listed in order I think the affect >>me, most probably cause to least): >>(1) Eating Choclate
>>(2) Stress
>>(3) Lack of sleep
>>(4) Excess amounts of citric acid
>>(5) Excess sweets (other then chocoalte)
> avoid the things on your list, but you should also stay away from peanuts.
I've heard that all sorts of nuts can cause sores in the mouth. The sharp edges cause minute perforations.
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Margot Flowe
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Frequent cold sores/canker sores [LONG REPLY W/CITATIONS] Quote:
>>The cause of aphthous stomatitis (canker sores -- the shallow ulcers
>>that occur on the inside surfaces of the mouth) is not known. It is
>>probably autoimmune, and their is some reason to think it may be
>>an autoimmune problem triggered by a mouth bacterium such as a strain
>>of alpha-hemolytic streptococcus, but no one is sure. Rinsing with
>>antibacterials (such as tetracycline), seems to help prevent recurrences
>>in some people who are prone to aphthous stomatitis, perhaps by killing
>>off bacteria.
>Is this type of sore contagious, i.e. via kissing? Should it be
>thought of as an STD?
I've been wondering about that. I never even had them until {*filter*}hood & moving to a different part of the country, so I always figured it involved needing to be exposed to something. However the exposure doesn't seem to need physical contact. My 4 year old has gotten canker sores a few times, and each time I've noticed another kid at her nursery school had a bad outbreak. Also, I got the worst canker sore I've ever had, constantly painful, when someone who worked near me was having multiple outbreaks of them. Can anyone clarify?
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