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 Distinction; was: Re: Followup: Seldane for allergies

It seems to me that some of the descriptions in the long summary
mixing up Seldane (terfenadine) with Seldane-D (terfenadine plus
pseudoephedrine).

The pounding-heart side effects, in particular, sound like
pseudoephedrine, not terfenadine.

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Sun, 22 Oct 1995 01:18:09 GMT
 Distinction; was: Re: Followup: Seldane for allergies


Fri, 19 Jun 1992 00:00:00 GMT
 Distinction; was: Re: Followup: Seldane for allergies

I tried seldane, and it did very little.  It cured the itchy eyes from tree
pollen allergies (somewhat) but did nothing for my nose.  It didn't help at
for my cat allergies.  I have a close friend with severe allergies, which need
to be controlled as they affect his BP and heart rhythm
eldane also did nothing for him.  He is on hismanol, has taken it for a couple years
years now with good results.  I am using beconase aq nosespray year-round,
which is GREAT for my nose.  I supplement with seldane for my eyes just for
May-June, although we may switch me since it's not helping completely.  Then
I have ventolin for the occasional mild asthma attack from cats!



Sun, 22 Oct 1995 22:24:41 GMT
 Distinction; was: Re: Followup: Seldane for allergies

Quote:

>As a last resort before beginning allergy injections, my
>allergiest wants me to use Seldane instead of chlortrimeton.
>If you've had experiences (good or bad) or side effects with
>Seldane, let me know, please.

I ttake Seldane pretty regularly for my hay fever.  I like it quite well
because it keeps my symptoms pretty well under control, and it really
does not cause me any problems.  No drowsiness or anything like that.

The trick, however, is to take it regularly on a preventative
basis.  It does not help much after you have gone into a sneezing
attack and all, but it does wonderfully if you take it before your
symptoms start.  Give it a try, and good luck!


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                                        --Albert Einstein



Mon, 23 Oct 1995 07:01:00 GMT
 Distinction; was: Re: Followup: Seldane for allergies


Fri, 19 Jun 1992 00:00:00 GMT
 Distinction; was: Re: Followup: Seldane for allergies

For the second time in six weeks I have a cold which seems to affect
my ears - the right one in particular.  When I walk I get this noise
in my right ear as though there is a bit of water behind the eardrum -
something like the noise you get when you have water in the ears from
swimming. I can also *hear* my pulse sloshing in my ear.  What's the
likely cause?  I imagine, like my cold, it will go away in a week with
treatment, or seven days without treatment.  It's just a little disconcerting.

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Mon, 23 Oct 1995 11:45:05 GMT
 Distinction; was: Re: Followup: Seldane for allergies


Fri, 19 Jun 1992 00:00:00 GMT
 Distinction; was: Re: Followup: Seldane for allergies

Quote:

> As a last resort before beginning allergy injections, my
> allergiest wants me to use Seldane instead of chlortrimeton.
> (I had been using homeopathic allergy medicines with great
> success until the heavy, heavy pollens kicked in last week.
> I had to switch to chlortrimeton and now need something with
> more kick that lasts for longer than 2 hours.  Chlortrimeton
> used to do it (12 mg) and hold me for 4-6 hours.  Now, a 15
> mg dose barely holds for 2-3 hours.  So, Seldane it is.)

> If you've had experiences (good or bad) or side effects with
> Seldane, let me know, please.

> Thanks.


I tried it for a while.  It made me feel very, very tired.  It's not supposed
to make you sleepy.  HAH!  I have some success with Su-phedrine, an over
the counter drug.  Nothing else works very well.  I also tried Hismanil,
and had flareups of arthritis with it.  Strange reactions...... who knows
why.

Sue

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Wed, 25 Oct 1995 03:50:00 GMT
 Distinction; was: Re: Followup: Seldane for allergies


Fri, 19 Jun 1992 00:00:00 GMT
 Distinction; was: Re: Followup: Seldane for allergies
First of all, my apologies for 'jumping' right in the middle of this thread
in a clueless fashion, but my allergies made me do it. =)

I have allergies and asthma, and I have used Seldane in the past.  Hism{*filter*}
daily seems to have been more effective than Seldane 2x day in my case.  On
the other hand, Ketotifen (brand name: Zaditen) was even more effective when
I used to have access to this brand years ago -- but I haven't seen much
discussion about this since it's probably not FDA-cleared yet.  So my last
five years has been heavily Hismanal.

I went to the Doctor since my allergies have taken a new level of destruction
recently, and the Hism{*filter*}slot was replaced by Claritin (Ioratadine) daily.
I've had exactly one pill so far (in a day where I already had my Hism{*filter*}
dose) and it only helped me for a couple of hours.  That's why I'm still up
right now typing this, as my lungs gently wheezes. =(

Anyone else out there who has tried Ketotifen or Ioratadine?  Please post!
Inquiring lungs want to know...

Vannevar
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Wed, 25 Oct 1995 14:28:35 GMT
 Distinction; was: Re: Followup: Seldane for allergies


Fri, 19 Jun 1992 00:00:00 GMT
 Distinction; was: Re: Followup: Seldane for allergies
I found it not to be as effective as Bromfed, and found it to make me
feel somehow "different" emotionally - I never did really put a finger
on exactly how - maybe a bit depressed, maybe a bit paranoid - but I
did notice a difference. Rather than take Seldane or Hism{*filter*}(which
gave me extreme constipation), I started a course of Beconase (a.k.a,
Vancenase) nasal beclomethasone inhaler.  For me, it has far surpassed
many antihistamines in its effectiveness, and with no side effects. I
still occasionally take lower doses of antihistamines to counteract
some of the systemic itchiness that is not handled by the local
steroid treatment, but the overall impact is that I am much more
comfortable and do not suffer from antihistamine-induced drowsiness or
depression.
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Sat, 28 Oct 1995 01:11:27 GMT
 Distinction; was: Re: Followup: Seldane for allergies
I used Seldane for several years, or at least until Hism{*filter*}came out.
It seemed to help me, but not a whole lot.  But in the meantime I
developed an inverted T wave in my electrocardiogram.  Seldane has been
associated with some sort of cardiac anomaly, but since I know not what
I'm talking about in this area, I don't mean to emphasize that there is
any connection--somebody correct me if I'm wrong.  Besides, I haven't
taken Seldane in a year, and I still have the inverted T wave.
(Sitting in meetings all day probably gave me that.)

The worst problem with Hism{*filter*}(and with Claritin as well) is that you
are supposed to take them on an empty stomach, which means about an
hour before any meal and about two hours after any meal.  You folks
will get the idea that I eat all the time--you'd be wrong--but my
schedule makes that a little tough to meet.  When I'm not eating, I
have my hands full, at least during the week.  I have often wondered
why they couldn't encapsulate the pills in something that took at least
two hours to break down, and that way I could take them with meals!

The last time I went to my allergist for a skin test, he said that I
needed to lay off the Hism{*filter*}for at least three weeks before the test
due to possible lingering effects.  I asked him if I could take
Seldane, and he said that I could take it until the day before.  He
also wanted me to discontinue Zantac for several days before.  So you
might want to consider Seldane if you plan to have allergy tests soon.
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Sat, 28 Oct 1995 02:52:36 GMT
 Distinction; was: Re: Followup: Seldane for allergies


Fri, 19 Jun 1992 00:00:00 GMT
 Distinction; was: Re: Followup: Seldane for allergies

Quote:

>First of all, my apologies for 'jumping' right in the middle of this thread
>in a clueless fashion, but my allergies made me do it. =)

I understand _fully_ :)

Quote:
>I have allergies and asthma, and I have used Seldane in the past.  Hism{*filter*}
>daily seems to have been more effective than Seldane 2x day in my case.  On
>the other hand, Ketotifen (brand name: Zaditen) was even more effective when
>I used to have access to this brand years ago -- but I haven't seen much
>discussion about this since it's probably not FDA-cleared yet.  So my last
>five years has been heavily Hismanal.

>I went to the Doctor since my allergies have taken a new level of destruction
>recently, and the Hism{*filter*}slot was replaced by Claritin (Ioratadine) daily.
>I've had exactly one pill so far (in a day where I already had my Hism{*filter*}
>dose) and it only helped me for a couple of hours.  That's why I'm still up
>right now typing this, as my lungs gently wheezes. =(

I've used Claritin for 2.5 wks now and *love* the stuff.  No more morning
headaches, excess postnasal drainage, and the remarkable absence of that
_sluggish_ feeling. Also, the side effect profile seems to match my needs
perfectly. Seldane makes me an airhead and Seldane D makes me jittery and
anxious (not good for a guy w/Panic Disorder in remission). It's rather
expensive, but insurance pays for 80%. (30 day supply of 1/day tablets is
$53.)

The package insert for Loratadine (the professional samples show a lowercase
"L" which looks like a capital "I" as in "Ioratadine" but it's really an "L")
claims that 10mg Claritin tablets "dosed once daily, had reached steady state
by the fifth daily dose."  I interpret this to mean even though one can take
this drug "prn" (as needed), it's better to take over a period of time to be
theraputically useful.

That's my $0.02. Your mileage may vary.

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Sat, 28 Oct 1995 13:31:44 GMT
 
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