PVC skipped heart beats due to hydrocodone abuse 
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 PVC skipped heart beats due to hydrocodone abuse

Hello,  Im having a problem with skipped heart beats.  Let me briefly
give you how this came into play.  Im 28 male who had been abusing
hydrocodone for about 2 years (no i was not taking this for any medical
reason).  I was taking up to 100mg of hydro daily.  I have been through
withdrawls before on a 50 mg habit and never had a problem like this.
After a good year long binge of 100mg <> a day, I decided to stop again
only because i started to feal weird chest pains in all different
areas.  My neck has siezed up twice not even sure if that is related.
Arms fell asleep but i do sleep kind of weird again not sure if that is
related.

But as i tried to take more hydro it would hurt.  Now at this point on
im 30mg a day.  I was 230 lbs and now weight about 204.  I was waking
up in the middle of the night in what seemed a comma.  I was up but i
could not wake my body up.  I had to shake myself until I got up.  On
other occasions i would wake up in a panic, take my {*filter*} pressure
which would go up to 160.  This would happen every other day, then
almost ever day, until that one day would it would not stop ALL day.  I
saw my doctor and told him all this and subscribed me CATAPRES and a
"good luck" and scheduled me for a physical a week later.  The next day
things got alot worse and heart rate and {*filter*} pressure was more
constant. I actually could not take it anymore and went to the
emergency room.  I came in with a {*filter*} pressure of 165 and a heart
rate of 170bpm.  All the doctor did was take an EKG and requested more
CATAPRES since i was only on just a patch of .1mg.  Im now on 2 pills a
day plus the patch.  They then sent me home with the cause as narcotic
withdrawl which i dont entirely believe to be the reason.  Anyway, that
same night my nerves or heart did not seem to stop and was in fear that
my heart could not keep up at this pace any longer, i took a half of
xanex(thank god i had available) and slept like a baby.  Panic almost
all gone, temporarily anyway.

The only bad news is now as after i went to the doctor again for
another EKG he says i do still have irregular heart beats.  Next week
when a holter monitor is available he will put me on one as well as a
chest xray.  I know for a fact by fealing my own pulse that every
couple minutes or so my heart DOES skip a beat and comes back with a
large pulse.  I do feel this in my stomach as if it is nerves or just
scared that it happened.

The good news is Im on about a 10mg habit every other day or so and
basically done but still have that skip heart beat fealing.  Also i
woke up twice last night one time my heart seemed to be racing again in
my dream.  So, my question is can anyone offer any advice?  Should i
continue valium or xanex at low doses?  Should i excercise or do i need
rest from my heart going crazy for days. I have been to the doctor and
the hospital and not getting much advise or help.



Thu, 28 Jun 2007 07:46:22 GMT
 PVC skipped heart beats due to hydrocodone abuse
So you're here on the net!  Where you're likely to find all kinds of
experts happy to give advice to detoxing strangers with odd cardiac
symptoms.

Not.



Thu, 28 Jun 2007 07:56:38 GMT
 PVC skipped heart beats due to hydrocodone abuse

| mikey wrote this...
|
| Hello,  Im having a problem with skipped heart beats.  Let me briefly
| give you how this came into play.  Im 28 male who had been abusing
| hydrocodone for about 2 years (no i was not taking this for any medical
| reason).  I was taking up to 100mg of hydro daily.  I have been through
| withdrawls before on a 50 mg habit and never had a problem like this.
| After a good year long binge of 100mg <> a day, I decided to stop again
| only because i started to feal weird chest pains in all different
| areas.  My neck has siezed up twice not even sure if that is related.
| Arms fell asleep but i do sleep kind of weird again not sure if that is
| related.
|
| But as i tried to take more hydro it would hurt.  Now at this point on
| im 30mg a day.  I was 230 lbs and now weight about 204.  I was waking
| up in the middle of the night in what seemed a comma.  I was up but i
| could not wake my body up.  I had to shake myself until I got up.  On
| other occasions i would wake up in a panic, take my {*filter*} pressure
| which would go up to 160.  This would happen every other day, then
| almost ever day, until that one day would it would not stop ALL day.  I
| saw my doctor and told him all this and subscribed me CATAPRES and a
| "good luck" and scheduled me for a physical a week later.  The next day
| things got alot worse and heart rate and {*filter*} pressure was more
| constant. I actually could not take it anymore and went to the
| emergency room.  I came in with a {*filter*} pressure of 165 and a heart
| rate of 170bpm.  All the doctor did was take an EKG and requested more
| CATAPRES since i was only on just a patch of .1mg.  Im now on 2 pills a
| day plus the patch.  They then sent me home with the cause as narcotic
| withdrawl which i dont entirely believe to be the reason.  Anyway, that
| same night my nerves or heart did not seem to stop and was in fear that
| my heart could not keep up at this pace any longer, i took a half of
| xanex(thank god i had available) and slept like a baby.  Panic almost
| all gone, temporarily anyway.
|
| The only bad news is now as after i went to the doctor again for
| another EKG he says i do still have irregular heart beats.  Next week
| when a holter monitor is available he will put me on one as well as a
| chest xray.  I know for a fact by fealing my own pulse that every
| couple minutes or so my heart DOES skip a beat and comes back with a
| large pulse.  I do feel this in my stomach as if it is nerves or just
| scared that it happened.
|
| The good news is Im on about a 10mg habit every other day or so and
| basically done but still have that skip heart beat fealing.  Also i
| woke up twice last night one time my heart seemed to be racing again in
| my dream.  So, my question is can anyone offer any advice?  Should i
| continue valium or xanex at low doses?  Should i excercise or do i need
| rest from my heart going crazy for days. I have been to the doctor and
| the hospital and not getting much advise or help.
|
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Some questions come to mind.

Did you tell your physician how much hydrocodone you were taking
and how often?  What was his actual response to this information?
Did he recommend that you STOP taking unprescribed hydrocodone?
Is your physician aware of your continued hydrocodone usage?  Is
he aware that you are taking Xanax?  What was his response to
THIS information?

A {*filter*} pressure consists of two numbers, systolic over diastolic.
you've only given one number; 160 and 165.  I presume that is your
systolic pressure (the larger of the two numbers).  If your systolic
{*filter*} pressure is consistently in that range then you do have high
{*filter*} pressure.  Is it a result of withdrawal?  Very likely.  A heart
rate of 170 is very fast for an {*filter*}.  Too fast.  Is your heart rate
this high consistently? I suspect it isn't.  What do you feel like when
it IS this high?

You state "i started to feal weird chest pains in all different areas.
My neck has siezed up twice not even sure if that is related."  What
do you mean by this?  Does the pain go up your neck?  Do you feel
pain in your jaw when this happens? Do you feel pain anywhere in your
left arm when this happens? Do you have trouble breathing or are you
sweating during these episodes?  Do you feel dizzy or nauseous?
If your answer to any of these questions is yes then you should
tell your physician of these symptoms if you haven't already done
so.  This pain could well be related to your extremely fast heart rate.
It may indicate your heart muscle is not getting enough {*filter*} (and
oxygen).  If this occurs again and lasts longer than five minutes then
you should seek immediate emergency medical attention.  Do NOT
drive yourself to the hospital.  Call an ambulance.

While you may believe you aren't getting much advice or help from
your physician it appears that he has prescribed Catapres (clonidine)
appropriately.  It is used to control high {*filter*} pressure as well as to
suppress symptoms of narcotic withdrawal.  In addition, the plan to
evaluate your heart rate and rhythm using a Holter monitor also
seems to be appropriate.  I repeat, however, if you are experiencing
any of the symptoms I have described above for longer than 5 minutes
then do NOT wait.  Get immediate medical help even if you are on
the Holter monitor.

Your physician is dealing with a narcotic {*filter*}.  Such a patient
can be extremely difficult to treat.  Your post illustrates why
this is so.  By your own admission you have "been abusing
hydrocodone [up to 100 mg per day] for about 2 years" and you
were "not taking this for any medical reason." That is a boatload
of Vicodin, yet when your physician diagnoses withdrawal you don't
believe him.  In addition you begin taking Xanax to relieve the
symptoms of your withdrawal (in addition to the medication
already prescribed for your symptoms) and then you seek
the advice of others whose qualifications are, at best questionable
while seeming to reject, at least in some measure, the advice of
your physician by stating "I have been to the doctor and the
hospital and not getting much advise or help."

My advice is to ask your doctor the questions you have posed in your
post.  And you should absolutely NOT exercise if you are experiencing
chest pain.

Kindest Regards,
Snidely



Mon, 02 Jul 2007 13:55:22 GMT
 PVC skipped heart beats due to hydrocodone abuse
Sadly, Mikey is still taking 10 mgs of hydrocodone "every other day or so" -
the problem here, as you correctly pointed out is {*filter*}ion, and needs to be
treated accordingly.  What I want to know is this:  how do you obtain 100
mgs of hydrocodone every day for a year?  Surely no physician who's heard of
the DEA would prescribe like that, and street sources - are they THAT
reliable?

G



Quote:

> | mikey wrote this...
> |
> | Hello,  Im having a problem with skipped heart beats.  Let me briefly
> | give you how this came into play.  Im 28 male who had been abusing
> | hydrocodone for about 2 years (no i was not taking this for any medical
> | reason).  I was taking up to 100mg of hydro daily.  I have been through
> | withdrawls before on a 50 mg habit and never had a problem like this.
> | After a good year long binge of 100mg <> a day, I decided to stop again
> | only because i started to feal weird chest pains in all different
> | areas.  My neck has siezed up twice not even sure if that is related.
> | Arms fell asleep but i do sleep kind of weird again not sure if that is
> | related.
> |
> | But as i tried to take more hydro it would hurt.  Now at this point on
> | im 30mg a day.  I was 230 lbs and now weight about 204.  I was waking
> | up in the middle of the night in what seemed a comma.  I was up but i
> | could not wake my body up.  I had to shake myself until I got up.  On
> | other occasions i would wake up in a panic, take my {*filter*} pressure
> | which would go up to 160.  This would happen every other day, then
> | almost ever day, until that one day would it would not stop ALL day.  I
> | saw my doctor and told him all this and subscribed me CATAPRES and a
> | "good luck" and scheduled me for a physical a week later.  The next day
> | things got alot worse and heart rate and {*filter*} pressure was more
> | constant. I actually could not take it anymore and went to the
> | emergency room.  I came in with a {*filter*} pressure of 165 and a heart
> | rate of 170bpm.  All the doctor did was take an EKG and requested more
> | CATAPRES since i was only on just a patch of .1mg.  Im now on 2 pills a
> | day plus the patch.  They then sent me home with the cause as narcotic
> | withdrawl which i dont entirely believe to be the reason.  Anyway, that
> | same night my nerves or heart did not seem to stop and was in fear that
> | my heart could not keep up at this pace any longer, i took a half of
> | xanex(thank god i had available) and slept like a baby.  Panic almost
> | all gone, temporarily anyway.
> |
> | The only bad news is now as after i went to the doctor again for
> | another EKG he says i do still have irregular heart beats.  Next week
> | when a holter monitor is available he will put me on one as well as a
> | chest xray.  I know for a fact by fealing my own pulse that every
> | couple minutes or so my heart DOES skip a beat and comes back with a
> | large pulse.  I do feel this in my stomach as if it is nerves or just
> | scared that it happened.
> |
> | The good news is Im on about a 10mg habit every other day or so and
> | basically done but still have that skip heart beat fealing.  Also i
> | woke up twice last night one time my heart seemed to be racing again in
> | my dream.  So, my question is can anyone offer any advice?  Should i
> | continue valium or xanex at low doses?  Should i excercise or do i need
> | rest from my heart going crazy for days. I have been to the doctor and
> | the hospital and not getting much advise or help.
> |
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Some questions come to mind.

> Did you tell your physician how much hydrocodone you were taking
> and how often?  What was his actual response to this information?
> Did he recommend that you STOP taking unprescribed hydrocodone?
> Is your physician aware of your continued hydrocodone usage?  Is
> he aware that you are taking Xanax?  What was his response to
> THIS information?

> A {*filter*} pressure consists of two numbers, systolic over diastolic.
> you've only given one number; 160 and 165.  I presume that is your
> systolic pressure (the larger of the two numbers).  If your systolic
> {*filter*} pressure is consistently in that range then you do have high
> {*filter*} pressure.  Is it a result of withdrawal?  Very likely.  A heart
> rate of 170 is very fast for an {*filter*}.  Too fast.  Is your heart rate
> this high consistently? I suspect it isn't.  What do you feel like when
> it IS this high?

> You state "i started to feal weird chest pains in all different areas.
> My neck has siezed up twice not even sure if that is related."  What
> do you mean by this?  Does the pain go up your neck?  Do you feel
> pain in your jaw when this happens? Do you feel pain anywhere in your
> left arm when this happens? Do you have trouble breathing or are you
> sweating during these episodes?  Do you feel dizzy or nauseous?
> If your answer to any of these questions is yes then you should
> tell your physician of these symptoms if you haven't already done
> so.  This pain could well be related to your extremely fast heart rate.
> It may indicate your heart muscle is not getting enough {*filter*} (and
> oxygen).  If this occurs again and lasts longer than five minutes then
> you should seek immediate emergency medical attention.  Do NOT
> drive yourself to the hospital.  Call an ambulance.

> While you may believe you aren't getting much advice or help from
> your physician it appears that he has prescribed Catapres (clonidine)
> appropriately.  It is used to control high {*filter*} pressure as well as to
> suppress symptoms of narcotic withdrawal.  In addition, the plan to
> evaluate your heart rate and rhythm using a Holter monitor also
> seems to be appropriate.  I repeat, however, if you are experiencing
> any of the symptoms I have described above for longer than 5 minutes
> then do NOT wait.  Get immediate medical help even if you are on
> the Holter monitor.

> Your physician is dealing with a narcotic {*filter*}.  Such a patient
> can be extremely difficult to treat.  Your post illustrates why
> this is so.  By your own admission you have "been abusing
> hydrocodone [up to 100 mg per day] for about 2 years" and you
> were "not taking this for any medical reason." That is a boatload
> of Vicodin, yet when your physician diagnoses withdrawal you don't
> believe him.  In addition you begin taking Xanax to relieve the
> symptoms of your withdrawal (in addition to the medication
> already prescribed for your symptoms) and then you seek
> the advice of others whose qualifications are, at best questionable
> while seeming to reject, at least in some measure, the advice of
> your physician by stating "I have been to the doctor and the
> hospital and not getting much advise or help."

> My advice is to ask your doctor the questions you have posed in your
> post.  And you should absolutely NOT exercise if you are experiencing
> chest pain.

> Kindest Regards,
> Snidely



Tue, 03 Jul 2007 01:06:31 GMT
 
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