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 WWW: Mental Health Net Announces Award Program

Edited version (to avoid any confusion):

Though repeated requests have been made, we have never been given any
evidence of the following: (quoting):

" Mental Health Net, the largest and most comprehensive mental
 health, psychiatric and psychological resource in the world
 today, ..."

    John Grohol is not only editor-in-chief, but is sole editor with any
power -- or so his past correspondence with me has indicated.  If there
is an editorial board, please state it and indicate how (the process by
which) it selects articles.  IN fact, heretofore I had no knowledge of
any other "editor."  Since John runs this essentially all by himself (or
so he has told me repeatedly), the claim (above) is not credible.
Moreover, John, as an APA member is required to yield up evidence for
his repeated claims in the field on demand (as a matter of ethics).
Please do so now (here), John   I am asking especially for an answer
to: If there is an editorial board, please state it and indicate how
(the process by which) it selects articles. -- b jesness



Sun, 17 Jan 1999 03:00:00 GMT
 WWW: Mental Health Net Announces Award Program

Though repeated requests have been made, we have never been given any
evidence of the following: (quoting)

" Mental Health Net, the largest and most comprehensive mental
 health, psychiatric and psychological resource in the world
 today, ..."

    John Grohol is not only editor-in-chief, but in sole editor with any
power -- or so his past correspondence with me has indicated.  If there
is an editorial borad, please state it and indicate how (the process by
which) it selects articles.  IN fact, heretofore I had no knowledge of
any other "editor."  Since John runs this essentially all by himself (or
so he has told me repeatedly), the claim (above) is not credible.  
Moreover, John, as an APA member is required to yield up evidence for
his repeated claims in the field on demand (as a matter of ethics).  
Please do so now (here), John   Iam am asking especially for an answer
to: If there is an editorial borad, please state it and indicate how
(the process by which) it selects articles. -- b jesness



Sun, 17 Jan 1999 03:00:00 GMT
 WWW: Mental Health Net Announces Award Program

Quote:

> Though repeated requests have been made, we have never been given any
> evidence of the following: (quoting)

> " Mental Health Net, the largest and most comprehensive mental
>  health, psychiatric and psychological resource in the world
>  today, ..."

>     John Grohol is not only editor-in-chief, but in sole editor with any
> power -- or so his past correspondence with me has indicated.  If there
> is an editorial borad, please state it and indicate how (the process by
> which) it selects articles.  IN fact, heretofore I had no knowledge of
> any other "editor."  Since John runs this essentially all by himself (or
> so he has told me repeatedly), the claim (above) is not credible.
> Moreover, John, as an APA member is required to yield up evidence for
> his repeated claims in the field on demand (as a matter of ethics).
> Please do so now (here), John   Iam am asking especially for an answer
> to: If there is an editorial borad, please state it and indicate how
> (the process by which) it selects articles. -- b jesness

Gee, and in e-mail, you said you'd stop. Another promise broken.

It's all available on the Web page, Mr. Jesness. It's been
on the Web page since its inception. We have an editorial
staff. We are putting together a board of directors for the
nonprofit corporation now.

Any other questions? Read the Web site *first* before you
clutter up the newsgroups with your trash allegations.

Perhaps APA would be interested in the much more serious
allegation that you go around calling yourself a
developmental psychologist even though you're not licensed.
See? Anybody can make unfounded and idle threats, Mr. Jesness.

Thanks!
-John

--
Mental Health Net
http://www.cmhc.com/
Search.Com's "Top Pick" in Mental Health!



Sun, 17 Jan 1999 03:00:00 GMT
 WWW: Mental Health Net Announces Award Program


Quote:

>It's all available on the Web page, Mr. Jesness. It's been
>on the Web page since its inception. We have an editorial
>staff. We are putting together a board of directors for the
>nonprofit corporation now.
>Any other questions? Read the Web site *first* before you
>clutter up the newsgroups with your trash allegations.
>Perhaps APA would be interested in the much more serious
>allegation that you go around calling yourself a
>developmental psychologist even though you're not licensed.
>See? Anybody can make unfounded and idle threats, Mr. Jesness.

is there some way to stop his trash? i am sick of it.

"The only thing that does any good is to jump into a cab and go to Tiffany's. Calms me down right away. "



Sun, 17 Jan 1999 03:00:00 GMT
 WWW: Mental Health Net Announces Award Program

Dear John,
   I have again looked at Mental Health Net and see nothing about the
editorial board (?) process of selecting articles for your
"comprehensive site."  Sorry but I need you help to understand your
article, ETC. selection process. How is it that a wide comprehensive
range of things are at least considered?  We must, simply must know !!  
-- b jesness



Mon, 18 Jan 1999 03:00:00 GMT
 WWW: Mental Health Net Announces Award Program


Fri, 19 Jun 1992 00:00:00 GMT
 WWW: Mental Health Net Announces Award Program

Quote:

> some states do not permit the use of the word PSYCHOLOGIST unless you
> are licensed. I am so sick of you and your trashy insane rantings that
> i am on the verge of calling APA and finding out if you live in one of
> those states and if you do, reporting you to the board of examiners.

I doubt this is true.   Which states do not "permit the use of
the word PSYCHOLOGIST" unless one is licensed?  Please
elaborate.  Surely, anyone with a degree in psychology is a
psychologist, just as anyone with a degree in biology is a
biologist, if they want to call themselves that.

I do believe in some states, if one is practicing as a therapist,
physician, social worker, etc., one cannot advertise onself
as a "psychologist" without being so licensed.   But I believe
that even in those states, an unlicensed individual can
call themselves a "psychologist" if they are not in any sort
of clinical setting -- for example, they are with a coporate or media
organization.

Steve



Mon, 18 Jan 1999 03:00:00 GMT
 WWW: Mental Health Net Announces Award Program

Quote:

>I doubt this is true.   Which states do not "permit the use of
>the word PSYCHOLOGIST" unless one is licensed?  Please
>elaborate.  Surely, anyone with a degree in psychology is a
>psychologist, just as anyone with a degree in biology is a
>biologist, if they want to call themselves that.
>I do believe in some states, if one is practicing as a therapist,
>physician, social worker, etc., one cannot advertise onself
>as a "psychologist" without being so licensed.   But I believe
>that even in those states, an unlicensed individual can
>call themselves a "psychologist" if they are not in any sort
>of clinical setting -- for example, they are with a coporate or media
>organization.

sorry steve you are wrong. it is illegal in many states across our
fair nation to even use the word unless you are licensed within that
state.

"The only thing that does any good is to jump into a cab and go to Tiffany's. Calms me down right away. "



Mon, 18 Jan 1999 03:00:00 GMT
 WWW: Mental Health Net Announces Award Program

Quote:

>Dear John,
>   Could you please outline the article selection procedures of YOUR
>"Mental Health Page" here for us NOW.  I want to hear about THE PROCESS
>by which articles are selected.    I have **not seen** this on the web
>page.  PLEASE DISPLAY IT FOR US HERE NOW.  Okay??
>   AND:  There are psychologists, like experimental psychologists, who
>are not licensed and who are psychologists as much or more than licensed
>(i.e. clinical) people.  I am a developmental psychologist.  I am not a
>clinician.  I am not licensed, but I am a *developmental psychologist*.  
>I have every right to say so.  Many experimental psychologists and other
>basic researchers are not licensed, but they are some or other type of
>VERY legimitate psychologist.  They are actually better scientists VERY
>typically, even than those few clinician who do research.  If anything
>most clinicians should not be able to call themselves psychologists.  
>   I am a developmental psychologist.  If the APA (that political guild
>organization) can possibly have any qualms with that then they can kick
>me out.  They can offend all but their clinical people and then have no
>claim as an organization for psychology generally.  GO FOR IT BIG GUY. I
>will take them to task on this too.  Leslie Packer simply has made some
>statements in this regard that are false.  As long as one does not put
>oneself forward to do clinical work without a license, you are ok.  

some states do not permit the use of the word PSYCHOLOGIST unless you
are licensed. I am so sick of you and your trashy insane rantings that
i am on the verge of calling APA and finding out if you live in one of
those states and if you do, reporting you to the board of examiners.It
has also occurred to  me to your academic department know that you are
getting perilously close to libel with your insane postings. Each and
every one has been saved in an internet database and be easily
forwarded to your place of work. Furthermore, if you are posting these
nutso threats on your  university's  time; i suggest you stop.  AND
one more thing Brad Jesness.... if you  begin contacting me via email
as you did once before I will not simply ignore you this time.
Estrogen fluctuations are making me  wilder than ever and i will
gladly nail your ass to the wall.
yours sincerely,

another APA member who has no compunction about reporting your lunacy
and harassment.

"The only thing that does any good is to jump into a cab and go to Tiffany's. Calms me down right away. "



Mon, 18 Jan 1999 03:00:00 GMT
 WWW: Mental Health Net Announces Award Program

Quote:


>>I doubt this is true.   Which states do not "permit the use of
>>the word PSYCHOLOGIST" unless one is licensed?  Please
>>elaborate.  Surely, anyone with a degree in psychology is a
>>psychologist, just as anyone with a degree in biology is a
>>biologist, if they want to call themselves that.
>sorry steve you are wrong. it is illegal in many states across our
>fair nation to even use the word unless you are licensed within that
>state.

Please tell me which states.   Name at least one.   Thanks.

I hate to think I'm breaking the law somewhere by using
the word "psychologist" in this post........

Steve



Mon, 18 Jan 1999 03:00:00 GMT
 WWW: Mental Health Net Announces Award Program

Dear Holly,
    I say I am a developmental psychologist.  One can NOT use the term
"psychologist" **ONLY** when implying or leading people to believe one
is a licensed CLINICAL psychologist ("oddly, "psychologist" for short).  
I do not do this (EVER) so all the ridiculously status-minded clinicians
can kiss my buttock.  I have cleared stated that I am not a licensed
CLINICIAN.  (My personal translation of this:  I was never suspected of
such possible incompetence that someone had to require a license of me).  
-- b jesness



Mon, 18 Jan 1999 03:00:00 GMT
 WWW: Mental Health Net Announces Award Program

Steve,
   You are correct.  The claims made about using the term are likely to
offend many an experiental psychologist (and several other specialities
doing basic research).  The clinical people are so ignorant that they
are basically believing what only my dullest froshman Psyc. 101 students
believe:  "the only real psychologist is a clinician."  This is
ridiculous and if any thing closer to the opposite of the truth.  It is
thinking like this by members of the APA that may soon result in them
NOT being the body for the science of psychology in general.  -- b
jesness



Mon, 18 Jan 1999 03:00:00 GMT
 WWW: Mental Health Net Announces Award Program

    I say I am a developmental psychologist.  One can NOT use the term
"psychologist" **ONLY** when implying or leading people to believe one
is a licensed CLINICAL psychologist ("oddly, "psychologist" for short).  
I do not do this (EVER) so all the ridiculously status-minded clinicians
can kiss my buttock.  I have cleared stated that I am not a licensed
CLINICIAN.  (My personal translation of this:  I was never suspected of
such possible incompetence that someone had to require a license of me).  
-- b jesness



Mon, 18 Jan 1999 03:00:00 GMT
 WWW: Mental Health Net Announces Award Program

Dear Steve,
   Ethical Standards of the APA (a private body holding no force of law)
still support what WE (me and you) have been saying:

(quoting Leslie Packer, who I believe directly quotes the APA manual):

"3.03 Avoidance of False or Deceptive Statements.

     (a) Psychologists do not make public statements that are false,
deceptive, misleading, or  fraudulent, either because of what they
state,
convey, or suggest or because of what they  omit, concerning their
research, practice, or other work activities or those of persons or
organizations with which they are affiliated. As examples (and not in
limitation) of this  standard, psychologists do not make false or
deceptive
statements concerning (1) their     training, experience, or competence;
(2) their academic degrees; (3) their credentials; (4)   their
institutional or association affiliations; (5) their services; (6) the
scientific or clinical basis     for, or results or degree of success
of,
their services; (7) their fees; or (8) their publications  or research
findings. (See also Standards 6.15, Deception in Research, and 6.18,
Providing  Participants With Information About the Study.)"  (end quote)
    Leslie has a hard time saying in simple words: I am wrong, I am sure
I offended many psychologists of other specialities;  excuse me for my
ignorance and pretentiousness.  Maybe this will help.  -- b jesness



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