> Hello, I was wondering if I could get some advice concerning my
> problem.  I saw a doctor recently about a what I would say is a
> deterioration of tissue in my mouth.  All soft tissue, as well as
> enamel
> on my teeth have been eroding away for about the past 10 years (or
> more--as best as I can remember)(I'm 28).  Very slowly this is eating
> away at everything in my mouth.  <GERD w/u snipped>  Has
> anyone dealt with this before?  Does anyone have any advice they could

> pass?

> Hello, I was wondering if I could get some advice concerning my
> problem.  I saw a doctor recently about a what I would say is a
> deterioration of tissue in my mouth.  All soft tissue, as well as enamel
> on my teeth have been eroding away for about the past 10 years (or
> more--as best as I can remember)(I'm 28).  Very slowly this is eating
> away at everything in my mouth.  My dentist first noticed it (after
> finding my teeth, especially the back of the front two, were being
> 'eaten' away by something) and referred me to a doctor to check for acid
> reflux.  He said it is possible that acid could be coming all the way
> back into my mouth at night, causing the erosion.  After an Upper GI was
> done, there was no evidence to indicate reflux of any kind.  Although
> the test came out negative, the doctor still said it could be happening
> at night, when muscles relax.  Therefore, I have followed his advice and
> have taken certain steps.  I.E., raising my bed, not eating at least 3
> hours before bed, etc.  But there's no doubt in my mind that the
> deterioration is still underway.  I'm just 28 now and fear that in
> another ten years, there won't be much left of my teeth or gums.  Has
> anyone dealt with this before?  Does anyone have any advice they could
> pass?  With the reflux test negative, I'm not really sure what my next
> step should be.  I'd like to have a ballpark feel for what I'm dealing
> with here before I leave the military doctors (I'm in the Air Force) to
> see an outside specialist--to my great expense.  Thank you for your
> time!

> Gary

> P.S.  The first doctor I saw said that with what he saw, he would bet
> (although I assured him otherwise) that I deliberately caused myself to
> throw-up; causing acids to be forced into my mouth.  That's what it
> appeared like to him.  Thought that might help.

> Thanks again.

> Hello, I was wondering if I could get some advice concerning my
> problem.  I saw a doctor recently about a what I would say is a
> deterioration of tissue in my mouth.  All soft tissue, as well as enamel
> on my teeth have been eroding away for about the past 10 years (or
> more--as best as I can remember)(I'm 28).  Very slowly this is eating
> away at everything in my mouth.  My dentist first noticed it (after
> finding my teeth, especially the back of the front two, were being
> 'eaten' away by something) and referred me to a doctor to check for acid
> reflux.  He said it is possible that acid could be coming all the way
> back into my mouth at night, causing the erosion.  After an Upper GI was
> done, there was no evidence to indicate reflux of any kind.  Although
> the test came out negative, the doctor still said it could be happening
> at night, when muscles relax.  Therefore, I have followed his advice and
> have taken certain steps.  I.E., raising my bed, not eating at least 3
> hours before bed, etc.  But there's no doubt in my mind that the
> deterioration is still underway.  I'm just 28 now and fear that in
> another ten years, there won't be much left of my teeth or gums.  Has
> anyone dealt with this before?  Does anyone have any advice they could
> pass?  With the reflux test negative, I'm not really sure what my next
> step should be.  I'd like to have a ballpark feel for what I'm dealing
> with here before I leave the military doctors (I'm in the Air Force) to
> see an outside specialist--to my great expense.  Thank you for your
> time!

> Gary

> P.S.  The first doctor I saw said that with what he saw, he would bet
> (although I assured him otherwise) that I deliberately caused myself to
> throw-up; causing acids to be forced into my mouth.  That's what it
> appeared like to him.  Thought that might help.

> Thanks again.

>Hello, I was wondering if I could get some advice concerning my
>problem.  I saw a doctor recently about a what I would say is a
>deterioration of tissue in my mouth.  All soft tissue, as well as enamel

Mr. Poston wrote...
>As a person who has suffered from acid reflux for over 25 years, there
>is no doubt that you would know if you had acid reflux. Period. When
>acid hits your esophagus you know it immediately.

> Mr. Poston wrote...
> >As a person who has suffered from acid reflux for over 25 years, there
> >is no doubt that you would know if you had acid reflux. Period. When
> >acid hits your esophagus you know it immediately.

> While I know the condition is painful for some, I have had many patietnts in
> GERD studies that didn't feel a sensation of pain with their esophagitis.
> Again, I am no doc, but I have witnessed this dozens of times.  I still
> recommend getting TDY orders and having another doc 'scope you.  Just go to
> sick call complaining of severe hearburn with everything you eat, even water.
> Such is the state of military medicine.

> > Mr. Poston wrote...
> > >As a person who has suffered from acid reflux for over 25 years, there
> > >is no doubt that you would know if you had acid reflux. Period. When
> > >acid hits your esophagus you know it immediately.

> > While I know the condition is painful for some, I have had many patietnts in
> > GERD studies that didn't feel a sensation of pain with their esophagitis.
> > Again, I am no doc, but I have witnessed this dozens of times.  I still
> > recommend getting TDY orders and having another doc 'scope you.  Just go to
> > sick call complaining of severe hearburn with everything you eat, even water.
> > Such is the state of military medicine.

> I agree. This is a purely anecdotal comment, but, until I almost bled to
> death from ulcers, I didn't realize I also had acid reflux. While in the
> hospital recovering, the doc (GE) kept questioning me. It was then that
> I found out that funny taste in my mouth at night most of the time, was
> acid reflux. At the time, I kept commenting about not having any pain
> with the big ulcer bleed.

> I obviously didn't have any pain with the acid reflux either. Even now,
> a year and a half later, I have to be real careful to watch for signs of
> reflux, because I don't feel anything except some upper abdominal
> pressure, and if I allow it to increase too much, then the funny taste
> in my mouth & a little burning in my throat. I can't take prilosec any
> more, due to my bad luck of developing one of the rare side effects.
> Prilosec took care of it real well, before I had to stop it. Now, I just
> watch what & how much & when I eat. (Low fat/low dairy, small portions &
> total, at least 4 hours before lying down.)

> PS I like Mexican food, including the salsa. It doesn't bother me. As
> long as I avoid the more greasy kind of stuff, I don't get reflux. This
> may not be true for everyone, but spicy cooking.net">food does not cause me to make
> excess acid. Greasy cooking.net">food certainly does, along with sweets, and too much
> carbohydrates, like bread & spaghetti. Whole milk & regular ice cream do
> as well. But skim milk and low fat, low sugar yogurt are okay.

> The scariest thing, to me, about GERD was when the doc explained that
> exposure of the esophagus to stomach acid too frequently, over too long
> a time, is associated with a marked increase in cancer of the esophagus.
> The cells there don't like to be damaged too much and too long.

> Good luck,
> Chuck

> > > Mr. Poston wrote...
> > > >As a person who has suffered from acid reflux for over 25 years, there
> > > >is no doubt that you would know if you had acid reflux. Period. When
> > > >acid hits your esophagus you know it immediately.

> > > While I know the condition is painful for some, I have had many patietnts in
> > > GERD studies that didn't feel a sensation of pain with their esophagitis.
> > > Again, I am no doc, but I have witnessed this dozens of times.  I still
> > > recommend getting TDY orders and having another doc 'scope you.  Just go to
> > > sick call complaining of severe hearburn with everything you eat, even water.
> > > Such is the state of military medicine.

> > I agree. This is a purely anecdotal comment, but, until I almost bled to
> > death from ulcers, I didn't realize I also had acid reflux. While in the
> > hospital recovering, the doc (GE) kept questioning me. It was then that
> > I found out that funny taste in my mouth at night most of the time, was
> > acid reflux. At the time, I kept commenting about not having any pain
> > with the big ulcer bleed.

> > I obviously didn't have any pain with the acid reflux either. Even now,
> > a year and a half later, I have to be real careful to watch for signs of
> > reflux, because I don't feel anything except some upper abdominal
> > pressure, and if I allow it to increase too much, then the funny taste
> > in my mouth & a little burning in my throat. I can't take prilosec any
> > more, due to my bad luck of developing one of the rare side effects.
> > Prilosec took care of it real well, before I had to stop it. Now, I just
> > watch what & how much & when I eat. (Low fat/low dairy, small portions &
> > total, at least 4 hours before lying down.)

> > PS I like Mexican food, including the salsa. It doesn't bother me. As
> > long as I avoid the more greasy kind of stuff, I don't get reflux. This
> > may not be true for everyone, but spicy cooking.net">food does not cause me to make
> > excess acid. Greasy cooking.net">food certainly does, along with sweets, and too much
> > carbohydrates, like bread & spaghetti. Whole milk & regular ice cream do
> > as well. But skim milk and low fat, low sugar yogurt are okay.

> > The scariest thing, to me, about GERD was when the doc explained that
> > exposure of the esophagus to stomach acid too frequently, over too long
> > a time, is associated with a marked increase in cancer of the esophagus.
> > The cells there don't like to be damaged too much and too long.

> > Good luck,
> > Chuck

> Were you tested for HP?  Didn't you notice that {*filter*} from the ulcer in
> your stool (dark)?

>During the procedure to stop the bleeding they did a biopsy for HP which
>turned out positive. So I received the full treatment for that, and it
>hasn't returned.

> > back into my mouth at night, causing the erosion.  After an Upper GI was
> > done, there was no evidence to indicate reflux of any kind.  Although
> > the test came out negative, the doctor still said it could be happening
> > at night, when muscles relax.
> > Gary
> I'm confused, do you have bad heartburn at night?  If you don't feel
> this, then unless you are somehow immune to the heartburn sensation
> until it reaches your mouth, I can't see how this is it.  First bet:  GO
> TO ANOTHER DOCTOR...