GETTING AIDS FROM ACUPUNCTURE NEEDLES 
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 GETTING AIDS FROM ACUPUNCTURE NEEDLES

   someone wrote in expressing concern about getting AIDS from acupuncture
   needles.....

Unless your friend is sharing fluids with their acupuncturist who              
themselves has AIDS..it is unlikely (not impossible) they will get AIDS        
from acupuncture needles. Generally, even if accidently inoculated, the normal
immune response should be enough to effectively handle the minimal contaminant
involved with acupuncture needle insertion.

Most acupuncturists use disposable needles...use once and throw away. They      
do this because you are not the only one concerned about transmission of
diseases via this route...so it's good business to advertise "disposable needlesused here." These needles tend to be of a lower quality however,
being poorly manufactured and too "sharp" in my opinion. They tend to snag {*filter*}vessels on insertion compared to higher quality needles.                                                                        
If I choose to use acupuncture for a given complaint, that patient will get
their own set of new needles which are sterilized between treatments.      
The risk here for hepatitis, HIV, etc. transmission is that I could mistakenly
use an infected persons needles accidently on the wrong              
patient...but clear labelling and paying attention all but eliminates
this risk. Better quality needles tend to "slide" past vessels and            
nerves avoiding unpleasant painful snags..and hematomas...so I use them.                        
Acupuncture needles come in many lengths and thicknesses...but they are all
solid when compared to their injection-style cousins. In China, herbal solutionsand western pharmaceuticals are occasionally injected into
meridian points purported to have TCM physiologic effects and so require
the same hollow needles used for injecting fluid medicine. This means...thinkingtiny...that a samll amount of tissue, the diameter of the needle bore, will be
injected into the body as it would  be in a typical "shot." when the skin is
puntured. On the other hand when the solid
acupuncture needle is inserted, the skin tends to "squeeze" the needle
from the tip to the level of insertion such that any 'cooties' that
haven't been schmeared away with {*filter*} before insertion, tend to remain
on the surface of the skin minimizing invasion from the exterior.

Of course in TCM...the body's exterior is protected by the Wei (Protective) Qi..so infection is unlikely....or in other words...there is a normal inflammatory
and immune response that accompanies tissue damage incurred at the puncture
site.

While I'm fairly certain your friend will not have a transferable disease
transmitted to them via acupuncture needle insertion, I would like to know for
what complaint they have consulted the acupuncturist...not to know  if it would be harmful.. but to know if it would be helpful.

John Badanes, DC, CA



Mon, 09 Oct 1995 05:44:43 GMT
 GETTING AIDS FROM ACUPUNCTURE NEEDLES

Quote:

>   someone wrote in expressing concern about getting AIDS from acupuncture
>   needles.....

>Unless your friend is sharing fluids with their acupuncturist who  
>themselves has AIDS..it is unlikely (not impossible) they will get AIDS        
>from acupuncture needles. Generally, even if accidently inoculated, the normal
>immune response should be enough to effectively handle the minimal contaminant
>involved with acupuncture needle insertion.

Isn't this what HIV is about - the "normal immune response" to an exposure?

Quote:
>Most acupuncturists use disposable needles...use once and throw away.

I had electrical pulse nerve testing done a while back.  The needles were taken
from a dirty drawer in an instrument cart and were most certainly NOT
sterile or even clean for that matter.  More than likely they were fresh
from the previous patient.  I WAS concerned, but I kept my mouth shut.  I
probably should have raised hell!

Any comments?  No excuses.



Mon, 09 Oct 1995 22:28:22 GMT
 GETTING AIDS FROM ACUPUNCTURE NEEDLES

Quote:

>I had electrical pulse nerve testing done a while back.  The needles were taken
>from a dirty drawer in an instrument cart and were most certainly NOT
>sterile or even clean for that matter.  More than likely they were fresh
>from the previous patient.  I WAS concerned, but I kept my mouth shut.  I
>probably should have raised hell!

        Could you describe in more detail the above procedure?  I've never
heard about it.
        And yes, if they pierced you with the needles you probably should have
protested.

euclid

--
Euclid K.       standard disclaimers apply
"It is a bit ironic that we need the wave model [of light] to understand the
propagation of light only through that part of the system where it leaves no
trace."  --Hudson & Nelson (_University_Physics_)



Tue, 10 Oct 1995 03:20:51 GMT
 
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