OB-GYN residency 
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 OB-GYN residency

Hi,

I am not certain if this request belongs to this group. Then again, it
was the closest of all groups on the net (to my request).

My wife is a foreign medical graduate and has passed all her exams
(including the licensing exams) required to begin residency. She
wants to specialize in OB-GYN. I would therefore appreciate if someone
sends me a list of hospitals that accept FMGs for OB-GYN residency.
As we are not very relocatable the hospitals need be in the
NY-NJ-CT area (parts of PA close to NJ would also be okay).

P.S.: I would greatly appreciate an electronic message, instead
of a reply post, as I am not an active reader in this group. If
there is sufficient interest I will post a summary of the replies.

Thank you in advance,



Fri, 29 Sep 1995 23:12:46 GMT
 OB-GYN residency

Quote:
>My wife is a foreign medical graduate and has passed all her exams
>(including the licensing exams) required to begin residency. She
>wants to specialize in OB-GYN. I would therefore appreciate if someone
>sends me a list of hospitals that accept FMGs for OB-GYN residency.

I believe it is illegal for a residency to discriminate against FMGs.  I
realize that some probably do but I doubt they would advertise the fact,
so you probably will not be able to find a list of the sort you are
looking for.  You could call around and see who already has other FMGs
in their programs (ask this as an "Oh, by the way" kind of question when
you call to get their application packet).  Ask if you can contact those
residents.  See how they feel about the program.  Competition for good
OB-GYN residency programs is down in recent years, probably because the
high level of malpractice and {*filter*} issue hassles are driving people
away.


This is patently absurd; but whoever wishes to become a philosopher
must learn not to be frightened by absurdities. -- Bertrand Russell



Sat, 30 Sep 1995 13:15:44 GMT
 OB-GYN residency

Quote:

>I believe it is illegal for a residency to discriminate against FMGs.  I

Is that true?  I know some that won't even interview FMGs.  
Most programs discriminate, in that given an FMG equally
qualified as an American they will take the American.  What
rights do they actually have?  Does it matter if they are
US citizens (most are not)?  We have had good luck with FMGs
and bad luck.  SOme of our very best residents have been FMGs.
Also, our very worst.  As it turns out, the worst FMGs are often
US citizens that studied in off-shore medical schools.  Of the
5 residents fired for incompetence in the 12 years I've been here
in my department, all have been FMGs.  3 were US citizens who studied
in Guadalajara, 1 was a US citizen but was trained in the Soviet Union,
and one was Philipina.  Unfortunately, all are now practicing medicine
somewhere, 3 of them in Neurology after having been picked up by
other programs, 1 in psychiatry, and the other in emergency medicine.

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Sat, 07 Oct 1995 00:10:54 GMT
 OB-GYN residency

Quote:
>>I believe it is illegal for a residency to discriminate against FMGs.
>Is that true?  I know some that won't even interview FMGs.

I think a case could be made that this is discriminatory, particularly
if an applicant had good board scores and recommendations but wasn't
offered an interview, but I don't know if it has ever gone to court.


This is patently absurd; but whoever wishes to become a philosopher
must learn not to be frightened by absurdities. -- Bertrand Russell



Sat, 07 Oct 1995 14:41:58 GMT
 OB-GYN residency

Quote:

>>>I believe it is illegal for a residency to discriminate against
FMGs.

>>Is that true?  I know some that won't even interview FMGs.

>I think a case could be made that this is discriminatory,
particularly
>if an applicant had good board scores and recommendations but wasn't
>offered an interview, but I don't know if it has ever gone to court.

FMGs who are not citizens are, like all aliens, in a difficult
situation. Only citizens get to vote here, so non-citizens are of
little or no interest to legislators. Also, the non-citizen may well
be in the middle of processing for resident alien status. There is a
stron sense that rocking the boat (eg. suing a residency program)
will delay the granting of that status, perhaps for ever.

Don Mackie - his opinions



Sat, 07 Oct 1995 22:46:23 GMT
 OB-GYN residency

Quote:

>FMGs who are not citizens are, like all aliens, in a difficult
>situation. Only citizens get to vote here, so non-citizens are of
>little or no interest to legislators. Also, the non-citizen may well
>be in the middle of processing for resident alien status. There is a
>stron sense that rocking the boat (eg. suing a residency program)
>will delay the granting of that status, perhaps for ever.

One should be aware that foreign doctors admitted for training
are ineligible to apply for resident alien status.  In order
to get the green card they have to return to their country and
apply at the embassy there.  Of course, many somehow get around
this problem.  Often it is by agreeing to practice in a town
with a need and then the congressman from that district tacks
a rider onto a bill saying "Dr. X will be allowed to have permanent
residency in the US."  A lot of bills in congress have such riders
attached to them.  Marrying a US citizen is the most common, although
now they are even cracking down on that and trying to tell US
citizens they must follow their spouse back to the Phillipines, or
whereever.

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Sun, 08 Oct 1995 23:21:22 GMT
 
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