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 More fluoxetine and bulimia

Is there any medicine that can actually inhibit the vomiting
action?  I ask in relation to treatment of bulimia with Prozac
(fluoxetine); I have known people to actually not be able to
vomit, even after a physically painful binge, after being on
Prozac for 2-4 weeks.  Is this as unfounded as it seems?
Perhaps it is just psychological somehow.

Thanks for any comments.



Fri, 13 Jan 1995 10:38:44 GMT
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>Is there any medicine that can actually inhibit the vomiting
>action?  I ask in relation to treatment of bulimia with Prozac
>(fluoxetine); I have known people to actually not be able to
>vomit, even after a physically painful binge, after being on
>Prozac for 2-4 weeks.  Is this as unfounded as it seems?
>Perhaps it is just psychological somehow.
>Thanks for any comments.

I've watched the discussion about bulimia and fluoxetine. And I don't
understand a lot of things. At first, what kind of medicine/treatment is
Prozac or fluoxetine?

If I have understood everything right that was posted, in my opinion,
it is not a question of not vomiting any longer, if you suffer from
bulimia. I think with this only the symptoms will be combatted, but not
the problems that have caused them. So this won't help the persons that
have bulimia.
Having these binges is a kind of reacting on stress, trying to escape
the problems you are convinced not to be able to solve. It's like a drug,
once you have learned this mechanism, it's almost impossible to stop it.
After such a binge, many patients get very angry about themselves and
depressive. They are afraid of getting very fat. To get rid of the
depression, they vomit after such a binge. If you try to prevent these
patients from vomiting by giving them Prozac or something like that,
you enlarge depression. I think this can be very dangerous, as these
persons suffering from bulimia are anyway at risk committing suicide.

Besides these symptoms are an outlet for not being able to cope with the
problems these people have. If they aren't allowed to eat and vomit any
more, they will become very restless, depressive, aggressive (also to
themselves, for example by hurting themselves) or they only will become
sick in another way, a psychosomatic illness like migraines or something
like that. But these symptoms will differ from person to person.
So I think it would be better to make a psychotherapy and let the
patients learn other mechanisms to cope with their problems step by step
without some medical treatment. The task of psychtherapy is to work
out with the clients why and when they eat and vomit, so that they are
able - in the long run - to recognize these situations before binges will
begin. Then the patients can decide whether they want to eat and vomit or
if they try to put it off. These delays will last a few painful hours at
the beginning, then perhaps a day (sometimes and sometimes you will start
eating straight on), then about a couple of days. At the end, after some
years, binges will only be every few months. I don't know. It depends on
the patient. And it is a very hard way for the bulimic person. But you
can go it without some medicine - that's my opinion.

             Ulrike

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Fri, 13 Jan 1995 22:35:17 GMT
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>Is there any medicine that can actually inhibit the vomiting
>action?

There are anti-nauseant medications which can control nausea and the
resulting urge to vomit--these are frequently used in certain disease
states, and during cancer chemotherapy.  Fluoxetine is not usually
considered one of these.  In fact, nausea isn't all that uncommon
a side effect of fluoxetine.

Quote:
>I ask in relation to treatment of bulimia with Prozac
>(fluoxetine); I have known people to actually not be able to
>vomit, even after a physically painful binge, after being on
>Prozac for 2-4 weeks.  Is this as unfounded as it seems?
>Perhaps it is just psychological somehow.

I don't know of any {*filter*} which prevent so-called "voluntary"
self-induced vomiting.  I doubt fluoxetine or any other pharmacotherapy
of bulemia works in this way.

--
Steve Dyer



Sat, 14 Jan 1995 11:51:23 GMT
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Quote:

>Is there any medicine that can actually inhibit the vomiting
>action?  I ask in relation to treatment of bulimia with Prozac
>(fluoxetine); I have known people to actually not be able to
>vomit, even after a physically painful binge, after being on
>Prozac for 2-4 weeks.  Is this as unfounded as it seems?
>Perhaps it is just psychological somehow.

There are such things as antiemetic {*filter*} which suppress the tendency
to vomit (e.g., Compazine).  Prozac is not antiemetic and in fact
causes nausea and rarely vomiting as a transient side effect in a
substantial percentage of people who take it.  

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Sat, 14 Jan 1995 04:59:08 GMT
 
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