Blueberries lower LDL cholesterol better than statin drugs
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 Blueberries lower LDL cholesterol better than statin drugs Blueberries lower LDL cholesterol better than statin {*filter*}
[ Subject: Blueberries lower LDL cholesterol better than statin {*filter*}
[ Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005
New research shows blueberries lower LDL cholesterol better than
statin {*filter*}
By Mike Adams
Thursday, January 06, 2005
http://www.***.com/
New research reveals the exciting fact that blueberries provide an
effective way to lower cholesterol without the dangers of statin
{*filter*}. In fact, the research shows that a compound in blueberries
acts just as effectively as statin {*filter*} to reduce the levels of bad
cholesterol or LDL cholesterol in mice, but without the negative side
effects of statin {*filter*} (such as having your muscles waste away).
In response to these results, the U.S. Department of Agriculture
(USDA) thinks that perhaps the antioxidant ingredient could be
'developed as a treatment.' Huh? What kind of development do we need
here? Can't people just grab blueberries and chew on them and swallow
the antioxidants the way normal human beings do? Do we have to
'develop a treatment' by somehow modifying blueberries into some kind
of genetically altered Frankenberry that can be sold to people at a
hundred times the price of blueberries from their local grocery
store?
Well, apparently so. Now researchers from pharmaceutical companies
are busy studying the chemical compounds found in blueberries trying
to find ingredients they can isolate, modify, patent and hype up to
the American public as the latest miracle anti-cholesterol drug. It's
downright amazing that none of the people who look at this come to
the obvious conclusion that hey, maybe we should just tell people to
eat more blueberries.
And, if some of these people could take yet another quantum leap of
introspection, perhaps they could realize that there might be other
berries that are also good for human beings, such as cranberries,
raspberries, strawberries, acai, or pomegranate seeds.
But no, instead it's all about how can we exploit this naturally
occurring chemical compound and use it to make some bucks for
corporate investors. That's the way big pharma works.
Here's a hint for all the free-thinking people out there who haven't
given in to the propaganda from the mass media and the pharmaceutical
industry: just eat some blueberries, folks. It's really not
complicated. This is what your ancestors did. This is what your body
was designed to eat. Just go out, eat some fresh roots like carrots
and radishes, get yourself some fresh greens such as spinach,
broccoli and kale, and eat fresh berries in large quantities --
blueberries, raspberries, blackberries and strawberries. While you're
at it, by the way, you could chew on some wholesome nuts like
almonds, cashews or my favorite: macadamia nuts.
And if you did all of this on a daily basis without consuming the
processed foods common to western societies, you would likely find
that you don't need any prescription {*filter*} whatsoever. Miraculously,
you would be a perfectly healthy human being. This is especially true
if you would supplement with superfoods like spirulina, chlorella,
broccoli sprouts and other similar concentrate nutrient sources.
You'd find your cholesterol achieving perfect balance. You would find
your nervous system to be in perfect health and you would experience
accelerated healing at every level. cooking.net">food is that powerful. It's the
ultimate medicine.
Let's be honest about this. How narrow-minded do these drug company
types really have to be to take a look at a gift from nature like
blueberries and realize that it has a powerful chemical compound that
lowers cholesterol naturally with zero side effects, and then decide
that hey, maybe we could exploit this to make a new profitable
prescription drug that we could market to the public at sky high
prices! How ethically twisted do you have to be as an individual to
think that way about the healing foods nature has provided?
Here's what we really need to be doing in this country. In our
hospitals, we need to eliminate the junk cooking.net">food restaurants and the
processed foods, and we need to visit the patient rooms with plates
full of fresh berries so that patients can eat these berries. We need
to open up the windows and let some sunshine and fresh air into those
rooms. We need to bring in some healing superfoods and let patients
munch all day long on the foods that we know prevent chronic disease.
While we're at it, we need to kick McDonald's restaurants and soft
drink vending machines out of our hospitals and public schools, too.
And lastly, we need to take these narrow-minded researchers and
pharmaceutical company doctors and force them to write on the
chalkboard, 'I will never steal from nature,' 1,000 times until they
finally get the point.
Jai Maharaj
http://www.***.com/
Om Shanti
Hindu Holocaust Museum
http://www.***.com/
Hindu life, principles, spirituality and philosophy
http://www.***.com/
http://www.***.com/
The truth about Islam and Muslims
http://www.***.com/ ~jai/satyamevajayate
The terrorist mission of Jesus stated in the Christian bible:
"Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not so send
peace, but a sword.
"For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the
daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in
law.
"And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
- Matthew 10:34-36.
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Blueberries lower LDL cholesterol better than statin drugs Doctor i used vasko an ayurvedic herbal cooking.net">food supplement and is doing
well for my heart,cholesterol,{*filter*} pressure,arthritis and lost
weight.you can read and buy from http://www.***.com/
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Blueberries lower LDL cholesterol better than statin drugs Berry Good! But, to be fair, here's the problem: You want to titrate the good
results without the side-effects. For example, there is a thousand
year old Chinese herbal medicine which is a beta blocker. But the dose
is unpredictable if you just look at it herbally. Moreover, some
natually occuring chemicals have multiple active sites. One site
produces the desired effect. The others do other things. If you have a
very sick person, you want to control this.
- = -
Vasos-Peter John Panagiotopoulos II, Columbia'81+, Bio$trategist
BachMozart ReaganQuayle EvrytanoKastorian
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/vjp2/vasos.htm
---{Nothing herein constitutes advice. Everything fully disclaimed.}---
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Barr
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Blueberries lower LDL cholesterol better than statin drugs This is great news for me Dr Jai. I need to bring my LDL down, cannot tolerate Statins at all, and have just discovered I live relatively close to a "pick-your-own"($3AU a Kg) blueberry farm. Thankyou. Barry, nid-north coast, NSW, Australia
Quote: > Blueberries lower LDL cholesterol better than statin {*filter*}
> [ Subject: Blueberries lower LDL cholesterol better than statin {*filter*}
> [ Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005
> New research shows blueberries lower LDL cholesterol better than
> statin {*filter*}
> By Mike Adams
> Thursday, January 06, 2005
> http://www.***.com/
> New research reveals the exciting fact that blueberries provide an
> effective way to lower cholesterol without the dangers of statin
> {*filter*}. In fact, the research shows that a compound in blueberries
> acts just as effectively as statin {*filter*} to reduce the levels of bad
> cholesterol or LDL cholesterol in mice, but without the negative side
> effects of statin {*filter*} (such as having your muscles waste away).
> In response to these results, the U.S. Department of Agriculture
> (USDA) thinks that perhaps the antioxidant ingredient could be
> 'developed as a treatment.' Huh? What kind of development do we need
> here? Can't people just grab blueberries and chew on them and swallow
> the antioxidants the way normal human beings do? Do we have to
> 'develop a treatment' by somehow modifying blueberries into some kind
> of genetically altered Frankenberry that can be sold to people at a
> hundred times the price of blueberries from their local grocery
> store?
> Well, apparently so. Now researchers from pharmaceutical companies
> are busy studying the chemical compounds found in blueberries trying
> to find ingredients they can isolate, modify, patent and hype up to
> the American public as the latest miracle anti-cholesterol drug. It's
> downright amazing that none of the people who look at this come to
> the obvious conclusion that hey, maybe we should just tell people to
> eat more blueberries.
> And, if some of these people could take yet another quantum leap of
> introspection, perhaps they could realize that there might be other
> berries that are also good for human beings, such as cranberries,
> raspberries, strawberries, acai, or pomegranate seeds.
> But no, instead it's all about how can we exploit this naturally
> occurring chemical compound and use it to make some bucks for
> corporate investors. That's the way big pharma works.
> Here's a hint for all the free-thinking people out there who haven't
> given in to the propaganda from the mass media and the pharmaceutical
> industry: just eat some blueberries, folks. It's really not
> complicated. This is what your ancestors did. This is what your body
> was designed to eat. Just go out, eat some fresh roots like carrots
> and radishes, get yourself some fresh greens such as spinach,
> broccoli and kale, and eat fresh berries in large quantities --
> blueberries, raspberries, blackberries and strawberries. While you're
> at it, by the way, you could chew on some wholesome nuts like
> almonds, cashews or my favorite: macadamia nuts.
> And if you did all of this on a daily basis without consuming the
> processed foods common to western societies, you would likely find
> that you don't need any prescription {*filter*} whatsoever. Miraculously,
> you would be a perfectly healthy human being. This is especially true
> if you would supplement with superfoods like spirulina, chlorella,
> broccoli sprouts and other similar concentrate nutrient sources.
> You'd find your cholesterol achieving perfect balance. You would find
> your nervous system to be in perfect health and you would experience
> accelerated healing at every level. cooking.net">food is that powerful. It's the
> ultimate medicine.
> Let's be honest about this. How narrow-minded do these drug company
> types really have to be to take a look at a gift from nature like
> blueberries and realize that it has a powerful chemical compound that
> lowers cholesterol naturally with zero side effects, and then decide
> that hey, maybe we could exploit this to make a new profitable
> prescription drug that we could market to the public at sky high
> prices! How ethically twisted do you have to be as an individual to
> think that way about the healing foods nature has provided?
> Here's what we really need to be doing in this country. In our
> hospitals, we need to eliminate the junk cooking.net">food restaurants and the
> processed foods, and we need to visit the patient rooms with plates
> full of fresh berries so that patients can eat these berries. We need
> to open up the windows and let some sunshine and fresh air into those
> rooms. We need to bring in some healing superfoods and let patients
> munch all day long on the foods that we know prevent chronic disease.
> While we're at it, we need to kick McDonald's restaurants and soft
> drink vending machines out of our hospitals and public schools, too.
> And lastly, we need to take these narrow-minded researchers and
> pharmaceutical company doctors and force them to write on the
> chalkboard, 'I will never steal from nature,' 1,000 times until they
> finally get the point.
> Jai Maharaj
> http://www.***.com/
> Om Shanti
> Hindu Holocaust Museum
> http://www.***.com/
> Hindu life, principles, spirituality and philosophy
> http://www.***.com/
> http://www.***.com/
> The truth about Islam and Muslims
> http://www.***.com/ ~jai/satyamevajayate
> The terrorist mission of Jesus stated in the Christian bible:
> "Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not so send
> peace, but a sword.
> "For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the
> daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in
> law.
> "And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
> - Matthew 10:34-36.
> o Not for commercial use. Solely to be fairly used for the educational
> purposes of research and open discussion. The contents of this post may not
> have been authored by, and do not necessarily represent the opinion of the
> poster. The contents are protected by copyright law and the exemption for
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Dr. Jai Mahar
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Blueberries lower LDL cholesterol better than statin drugs Good for you, Barry, and good health! Jai Maharaj
http://www.***.com/
Om Shanti
Quote: > This is great news for me Dr Jai. I need to bring my LDL down, cannot tolerate > Statins at all, and have just discovered I live relatively close to a > "pick-your-own"($3AU a Kg) blueberry farm. Thankyou. > Barry, nid-north coast, NSW, Australia > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted: > > Blueberries lower LDL cholesterol better than statin {*filter*}
> > [ Subject: Blueberries lower LDL cholesterol better than statin {*filter*}
> > [ Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005
> > New research shows blueberries lower LDL cholesterol better than
> > statin {*filter*}
> > By Mike Adams
> > Thursday, January 06, 2005
> > http://www.***.com/
> > New research reveals the exciting fact that blueberries provide an
> > effective way to lower cholesterol without the dangers of statin
> > {*filter*}. In fact, the research shows that a compound in blueberries
> > acts just as effectively as statin {*filter*} to reduce the levels of bad
> > cholesterol or LDL cholesterol in mice, but without the negative side
> > effects of statin {*filter*} (such as having your muscles waste away).
> > In response to these results, the U.S. Department of Agriculture
> > (USDA) thinks that perhaps the antioxidant ingredient could be
> > 'developed as a treatment.' Huh? What kind of development do we need
> > here? Can't people just grab blueberries and chew on them and swallow
> > the antioxidants the way normal human beings do? Do we have to
> > 'develop a treatment' by somehow modifying blueberries into some kind
> > of genetically altered Frankenberry that can be sold to people at a
> > hundred times the price of blueberries from their local grocery
> > store?
> > Well, apparently so. Now researchers from pharmaceutical companies
> > are busy studying the chemical compounds found in blueberries trying
> > to find ingredients they can isolate, modify, patent and hype up to
> > the American public as the latest miracle anti-cholesterol drug. It's
> > downright amazing that none of the people who look at this come to
> > the obvious conclusion that hey, maybe we should just tell people to
> > eat more blueberries.
> > And, if some of these people could take yet another quantum leap of
> > introspection, perhaps they could realize that there might be other
> > berries that are also good for human beings, such as cranberries,
> > raspberries, strawberries, acai, or pomegranate seeds.
> > But no, instead it's all about how can we exploit this naturally
> > occurring chemical compound and use it to make some bucks for
> > corporate investors. That's the way big pharma works.
> > Here's a hint for all the free-thinking people out there who haven't
> > given in to the propaganda from the mass media and the pharmaceutical
> > industry: just eat some blueberries, folks. It's really not
> > complicated. This is what your ancestors did. This is what your body
> > was designed to eat. Just go out, eat some fresh roots like carrots
> > and radishes, get yourself some fresh greens such as spinach,
> > broccoli and kale, and eat fresh berries in large quantities --
> > blueberries, raspberries, blackberries and strawberries. While you're
> > at it, by the way, you could chew on some wholesome nuts like
> > almonds, cashews or my favorite: macadamia nuts.
> > And if you did all of this on a daily basis without consuming the
> > processed foods common to western societies, you would likely find
> > that you don't need any prescription {*filter*} whatsoever. Miraculously,
> > you would be a perfectly healthy human being. This is especially true
> > if you would supplement with superfoods like spirulina, chlorella,
> > broccoli sprouts and other similar concentrate nutrient sources.
> > You'd find your cholesterol achieving perfect balance. You would find
> > your nervous system to be in perfect health and you would experience
> > accelerated healing at every level. cooking.net">food is that powerful. It's the
> > ultimate medicine.
> > Let's be honest about this. How narrow-minded do these drug company
> > types really have to be to take a look at a gift from nature like
> > blueberries and realize that it has a powerful chemical compound that
> > lowers cholesterol naturally with zero side effects, and then decide
> > that hey, maybe we could exploit this to make a new profitable
> > prescription drug that we could market to the public at sky high
> > prices! How ethically twisted do you have to be as an individual to
> > think that way about the healing foods nature has provided?
> > Here's what we really need to be doing in this country. In our
> > hospitals, we need to eliminate the junk cooking.net">food restaurants and the
> > processed foods, and we need to visit the patient rooms with plates
> > full of fresh berries so that patients can eat these berries. We need
> > to open up the windows and let some sunshine and fresh air into those
> > rooms. We need to bring in some healing superfoods and let patients
> > munch all day long on the foods that we know prevent chronic disease.
> > While we're at it, we need to kick McDonald's restaurants and soft
> > drink vending machines out of our hospitals and public schools, too.
> > And lastly, we need to take these narrow-minded researchers and
> > pharmaceutical company doctors and force them to write on the
> > chalkboard, 'I will never steal from nature,' 1,000 times until they
> > finally get the point.
> > Jai Maharaj
> > http://www.***.com/
> > Om Shanti
> > Hindu Holocaust Museum
> > http://www.***.com/
> > Hindu life, principles, spirituality and philosophy
> > http://www.***.com/
> > http://www.***.com/
> > The truth about Islam and Muslims
> > http://www.***.com/ ~jai/satyamevajayate
> > The terrorist mission of Jesus stated in the Christian bible:
> > "Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not so send
> > peace, but a sword.
> > "For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the
> > daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in
> > law.
> > "And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
> > - Matthew 10:34-36.
> > o Not for commercial use. Solely to be fairly used for the educational
> > purposes of research and open discussion. The contents of this post may not
> > have been authored by, and do not necessarily represent the opinion of the
> > poster. The contents are protected by copyright law and the exemption for
> > fair use of copyrighted works.
> > o If you send private e-mail to me, it will likely not be read,
> > considered or answered if it does not contain your full legal name, current
> > e-mail and postal addresses, and live-voice telephone number.
> > o Posted for information and discussion. Views expressed by others are
> > not necessarily those of the poster.
> > FAIR USE NOTICE: This article may contain copyrighted material the use of
> > which may or may not have been specifically authorized by the copyright
> > owner. This material is being made available in efforts to advance the
> > understanding of environmental, political, human rights, economic,
> > democratic, scientific, social, and cultural, etc., issues. It is believed
> > that this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as
> > provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with
> Title
> > 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed without
> > profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the
> included
> > information for research, comment, discussion and educational purposes by
> > subscribing to USENET newsgroups or visiting web sites. For more information
> > go to: http://www.***.com/
> > If you wish to use copyrighted material from this article for purposes of
> > your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the
> > copyright owner.
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Dr. Jai Mahar
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Blueberries lower LDL cholesterol better than statin drugs For best results, consult (in person) a licensed and duly trained (in as many time-tested systems of medicine as possible) health care professional. Jai Maharaj
http://www.mantra.com/jai
Om Shanti
Quote: > Berry Good! > But, to be fair, here's the problem: You want to titrate the good
> results without the side-effects. For example, there is a thousand
> year old Chinese herbal medicine which is a beta blocker. But the dose
> is unpredictable if you just look at it herbally. Moreover, some
> natually occuring chemicals have multiple active sites. One site
> produces the desired effect. The others do other things. If you have a
> very sick person, you want to control this.
> - = -
> Vasos-Peter John Panagiotopoulos II, Columbia'81+, Bio$trategist
> BachMozart ReaganQuayle EvrytanoKastorian
> http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/vjp2/vasos.htm
> ---{Nothing herein constitutes advice. Everything fully disclaimed.}---
> [Homeland Security means private firearms not lazy obstructive guards]
> [Health Reform means abolishing FDR's insurance tax exemption]
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Sbharris[atsign]ix.netcom.co
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Blueberries lower LDL cholesterol better than statin drugs Blueberries lower LDL cholesterol better than statin {*filter*}
[ Subject: Blueberries lower LDL cholesterol better than statin {*filter*}
[ Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005
New research shows blueberries lower LDL cholesterol better than
statin {*filter*}
By Mike Adams
Thursday, January 06, 2005
http://www.***.com/
=======================
COMMENT:
Complete bullshit, of course. A particular compound found in
blueberries was found to lower synthesis of cholesterol by RAT LIVER
CELLS in a frigging DISH. And from there, the mythology hasn't stopped.
A little more work is needed, folks. I'm sure blueberries are good for
you, but let's lose the hype on this.
SBH
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zwala..
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Blueberries lower LDL cholesterol better than statin drugs Oh thank gawd. The antidote for boredom: Steve Harris is online. Zee Quote:
> Blueberries lower LDL cholesterol better than statin {*filter*}
> [ Subject: Blueberries lower LDL cholesterol better than statin {*filter*}
> [ Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005
> New research shows blueberries lower LDL cholesterol better than
> statin {*filter*}
> By Mike Adams
> Thursday, January 06, 2005
> http://www.***.com/
> =======================
> COMMENT:
> Complete bullshit, of course. A particular compound found in
> blueberries was found to lower synthesis of cholesterol by RAT LIVER
> CELLS in a frigging DISH. And from there, the mythology hasn't
stopped.
> A little more work is needed, folks. I'm sure blueberries are good
for
> you, but let's lose the hype on this.
> SBH
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zipzi
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Blueberries lower LDL cholesterol better than statin drugs Quote: > And if you did all of this on a daily basis without consuming the
> processed foods common to western societies, you would likely find
> that you don't need any prescription {*filter*} whatsoever. Miraculously,
> you would be a perfectly healthy human being....
> You'd find your cholesterol achieving perfect balance. You would find
> your nervous system to be in perfect health and you would experience
> accelerated healing at every level.
yes this is so true! look at the facts - no one in the "East" or on a non "western" diet takes prescribed medication and no one ever dies from infectious diseases, cancer or heartattacks! why? because they all have achieved perfect cholesterol balance.
next week we will be told why fasting is the ultimate medicine, better
than food... why have cholosterol at all???
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Steve Marcu
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Blueberries lower LDL cholesterol better than statin drugs
Quote: > Oh thank gawd. The antidote for boredom: Steve Harris is online. Zee
Could you clarify your post? Was your post tongue in cheek, or do you really have a problem with someone who clarifies an outlandish post by injecting some actual fact into the discussion? See:
http://www.***.com/
headers trimmed and follow-ups set to misc.health.alternative, sci.med, and
sci.med.cardiology
Steve
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Quote:
>> Blueberries lower LDL cholesterol better than statin {*filter*}
>> [ Subject: Blueberries lower LDL cholesterol better than statin {*filter*}
>> [ Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005
>> New research shows blueberries lower LDL cholesterol better than
>> statin {*filter*}
>> By Mike Adams
>> Thursday, January 06, 2005
>> http://www.***.com/
>> =======================
>> COMMENT:
>> Complete bullshit, of course. A particular compound found in
>> blueberries was found to lower synthesis of cholesterol by RAT LIVER
>> CELLS in a frigging DISH. And from there, the mythology hasn't
> stopped.
>> A little more work is needed, folks. I'm sure blueberries are good
> for
>> you, but let's lose the hype on this.
>> SBH
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Zee
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Blueberries lower LDL cholesterol better than statin drugs Steve Harris is one of the best writers I have ever read. He knows I think that. I am not alone in my thinking. As soon as I posted some of his work to my health policy advocacy listserve, the board lit up. This guy is fantastic. Who is he? Is there more? I sure as hell hope so. Zee Quote:
> Oh thank gawd. The antidote for boredom: Steve Harris is online. Zee
> > Blueberries lower LDL cholesterol better than statin {*filter*}
> > [ Subject: Blueberries lower LDL cholesterol better than statin
{*filter*}
> > [ Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005
> > New research shows blueberries lower LDL cholesterol better than
> > statin {*filter*}
> > By Mike Adams
> > Thursday, January 06, 2005
> > http://www.***.com/
> > =======================
> > COMMENT:
> > Complete bullshit, of course. A particular compound found in
> > blueberries was found to lower synthesis of cholesterol by RAT
LIVER
> > CELLS in a frigging DISH. And from there, the mythology hasn't
> stopped.
> > A little more work is needed, folks. I'm sure blueberries are good
> for
> > you, but let's lose the hype on this.
> > SBH
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| Thu, 28 Jun 2007 00:46:16 GMT |
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David Wrig
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Blueberries lower LDL cholesterol better than statin drugs
Quote:
>Steve Harris is one of the best writers I have ever read. He knows I
>think that. I am not alone in my thinking. As soon as I posted some of
>his work to my health policy advocacy listserve, the board lit up. This
>guy is fantastic. Who is he? Is there more? I sure as hell hope so. Zee
As far as we know, there's only one of him. But I always enjoy his posts, even the ones I disagree with (those mostly revolve around economic issues). As far as I know, he's a geriatrician in Salt Lake City. -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)
Quote:
>> Oh thank gawd. The antidote for boredom: Steve Harris is online. Zee
>> > Blueberries lower LDL cholesterol better than statin {*filter*}
>> > [ Subject: Blueberries lower LDL cholesterol better than statin
>{*filter*}
>> > [ Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005
>> > New research shows blueberries lower LDL cholesterol better than
>> > statin {*filter*}
>> > By Mike Adams
>> > Thursday, January 06, 2005
>> > http://www.***.com/
>> > =======================
>> > COMMENT:
>> > Complete bullshit, of course. A particular compound found in
>> > blueberries was found to lower synthesis of cholesterol by RAT
>LIVER
>> > CELLS in a frigging DISH. And from there, the mythology hasn't
>> stopped.
>> > A little more work is needed, folks. I'm sure blueberries are good
>> for
>> > you, but let's lose the hype on this.
>> > SBH
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| Thu, 28 Jun 2007 05:57:02 GMT |
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kamat
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Blueberries lower LDL cholesterol better than statin drugs You make a big deal out of this using lots of Mumbo-Jumbo. The foremost
experts from Harvard University said the, otherday , that the choice of
,- eating right without too much fat, sugar,and eating lots of
vegetables fruits and exercising well- will do the same as thing as
cholestrol reducing {*filter*}. Meditation will also help.
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| Thu, 28 Jun 2007 07:13:50 GMT |
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Sbharris[atsign]ix.netcom.co
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Blueberries lower LDL cholesterol better than statin drugs Quote: >Steve Harris is one of the best writers I have ever read. He knows I
>think that. I am not alone in my thinking. As soon as I posted some of
>his work to my health policy advocacy listserve, the board lit up.
This
>guy is fantastic. Who is he? Is there more? I sure as hell hope so.
Zee As far as we know, there's only one of him. But I always enjoy his
posts, even the ones I disagree with (those mostly revolve around
economic issues). As far as I know, he's a geriatrician in Salt Lake
City.
COMMENT:
I am blushing. No, I don't do that any more, as the money ran out of
the programs and they disappeared in several places in that city,
mainly associated with Medicare's decision not to turn itself into an
HMO. Sometime, however, I'd like on my tombstone "He Tried To Practice
Outpatient Geriatrics in Utah". Sort of like "Attempted Pediatric
Practice in Sun City, AZ" or "{*filter*}ed Eiger North Face in Spring."
Had to be winched down in a basket, but you have to admire the spirit.
I will explain. Utah, being full of growing Mormon families, is the
demographically youngest state in the country, and higher-ed
budget-wise, one of the poorest. It has no oil or {*filter*} to pay the
bills, and lots of public schools to maintain for all those kids.
Outpatient geriatrics in other states is usually supported by academic
affiliations, since it can't possibly pay for itself on Medicare office
visit reimbur{*filter*}t, but in poor Utah, academic medicine doesn't really
have any money. The other proximate reason for that is that the only
medical school in Utah is affiliated with the University of Utah, which
is the officially secular university in a Mormon-dominated state. So
the state is not about to give it much of the little tax money it has
left after paying for K12, and that results in the U of U having about
enough grant-getting power to pay for the type of overeager types who
{*filter*}up the first artificial heart, or discover cold fusion in a jar.
The Mormons themselves prefer to give their higher ed academic money to
Mormon-operated BYU. But alas, BYU doesn't have a medical school. BYU
put in a law school instead, which was a lot cheaper-- just a law
library to buy and a nice building. Medicine was never the route to
power, anyway, as we all know. Better to know how to legislate or sue.
The Mormons run all the Utah medical care they are interested in
through IHC (Intermountain Health Corp), a big hospital corporation
controlled by Mormons, and which owns both the hospital where Mormon
leaders go for their bypasses (LDS Hospital) and where really ill
pediatric cases go (Primary Children's Med Center). All the rest of
Utah academic medicine-- stuff involving medicaid, complex inpatient
geriatrics, rare {*filter*} diseases, the homeless, or people with AIDS, or
anything that sounds like the Democrats might be interested in it, goes
to the apostate godless University Medical Center. Where Jewish doctors
take care of it as best they can, on a budget, like New Jersey.
There ARE a few geriatricians left in Utah, but they are a bad-tempered
and mangy lot, fighting over a rapidly diminishing pile of s{*filter*}bones
with little meat on them. Mostly they survive by doing inpatient
long-term care work, which is seeing a lot of demented people in
nursing homes, very fast, in order to survive on Medicare payments.
"Hi, Mrs. Jones, do you know where you are? No? You're in Limbo, that's
where you are. Let's listen to your chest. How's that old bedsore? Ah,
your ten minutes are up." That sort of thing.
But I couldn't take that, so now I do medical research in California.
Every state has its particularly brand of nuttiness, but at least in
So-Cal, it's *warmer* nuttiness.
SBH
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| Thu, 28 Jun 2007 10:01:10 GMT |
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adam_becker..
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Blueberries lower LDL cholesterol better than statin drugs Steve, I enjoyed your contrarian essay about C Reactive Protein. I do wonder
though. I find myself thinking that you are LIKELY to be right, but
nowhere certain to be right.
That is to say, we don't really know WHERE CRP sits w.r.t the causal
chain leading to arteriosclerosis. There's a correlation. Correlation
is not causation. BUT many things that are correlated ARE part of the
same causal path. Press reports say that CRP is detectable as a
constituent within arterioscl{*filter*} plaque. It still seems pretty
plausible to me that lowering CRP could have a direct effect plaque
growth.
OTOH, I'd certainly agree that it would make more sense to find out
what is CAUSING the inflammation and deal with that, rather than trying
to clean up the byproducts. Which means, at least:
- Get your omega 3 EFA (fish, fish oil, flax, walnuts, whatever.)
- Take care of any known sources of inflammation, with gingivitis very
high on the list.
- Get at least your minimum RDAs of antioxidant vitamins and minerals -
natural sources are better, but supplements will do if you won't change
your diet.
- Eat 'plenty' of other phytoantioxidants - flavenoids, carotenes etc.
There aren't RDAs established for these, but 5+ 4oz servings/day of a
variety of strongly colored fruits/vegetables.
Anything you'd add?
Adam Becker
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