(Chromium as dietary supplement for weight loss)

HM>  My wife has requested that I poll the Sages of Usenet to see what is
HM>  known about the use of chromium in weight-control diet suppliments.
HM>  She has seen multiple products advertising it and would like any kind
HM>  real information.
HM>  My first impulse was "Yuck! a metal!" but I have zero data on it.
HM>  What do you know?
HM>  --
HM>  Henry Melton

 From my experience with chromium on several thousand individuals,
 it appears to have had no "reducing" effect on anybody's weight
 what-so-ever, with one exception: Many people reported a reduction
 in their sugar cravings. As a result of decreasing their intake of
 sweets, a few claimed to have lost a couple of pounds.
         ~~~~~
 From a strictly chemical perspective, chromium falls into the sedative
 mineral category that includes calcium, copper and magnesium, which
 do not have any metabolically stimulating reputation (if at all, they
 will slow things down), so any weight loss, with the exception above,
 would be strictly coincidental.

 Depending on the general direction of one's {*filter*} sugar, GTF chromium
 has a tendency to be more compatible with HYPERglycemic types, while
 chelated chromium shows more favorable results with HYPOglycemic ones.
 I personally use chelated chromium successfully for left para-thyroid
 disturbances (osteoporosis), viral/bacterial infections (left tonsil,
 bladder), right ovarian cysts, hyperkalemia, hypercholesteremia, some
 cases of right-sided spinal degn., (especially lower C, upper T area)
 due to high copper, allergies, certain anxieties, and a few others...

     Ron Roth
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In patients with situs inversus, do you use all these therapies
for disorders of the contralateral sides?

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G(>

G(> R> I personally use chelated chromium successfully for left para-thyroid
G(> R> disturbances (osteoporosis), viral/bacterial infections (left tonsil,
G(> R> bladder), right ovarian cysts, hyperkalemia, hypercholesteremia, some
G(> R> cases of right-sided spinal degn., (especially lower C, upper T area)
G(> R> due to high copper, allergies, certain anxieties, and a few others...
G(>  
G(>  In patients with situs inversus, do you use all these therapies
G(>  for disorders of the contralateral sides?
G(>  
G(>  Gordon Banks

 I remember coming across only one patient with situs inversus way
 back before I started doing electronic mineral testing, and quite
 frankly, I don't recall what happened in that particular case, as
 I was using acupuncture at that time.

 With the electronic mineral test, the chemical read-out of patients
 determines the corrective recommendations, which, even for the same
 medical problems, are rarely identical. However, it wouldn't really
 matter if the chemical pattern with a situs inversus patient *WERE*
 reversed, the corrective measures would likely be reversed as well.

 If I were to treat a patient with hyperkalemia, I wouldn't automati-
 cally recommend chromium, just because it worked for the last person
 with the same condition.  A patient's *overall* chemistry determines
 each time the best mineral combination for that particular case, and
 may include Vit B-12, Vit B-4, Vit E, choline, manganese, magnesium,
 [chromium], and a phosphorus or protein supplement.

 Interesting point though. Next time I come across someone with situs
 inversus, I'll let you know if any of their lateral medical problems
 required a "reverse" mineral prescription!

    Ron Roth
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Are you sure what you are reading isn't just noise?

Since hyperkalemia can indicate serious disease, don't you think they
ought to be checked for that rather than just give them dietary supplements?
Why do you think they have the hyperkalemia, or does it matter?

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G(> R> With the electronic mineral test, the chemical read-out of patients
G(> R> determines the corrective recommendations, which, even for the same
G(> R> medical problems, are rarely identical....]
G(>  
G(>  Are you sure what you are reading isn't just noise?

    I'm positive. I don't believe in listening to a walkman while
    testing patients.  You should really try to do the same thing
    and remove your earphones before using that stethoscope.
    Besides, that punk rock is bad for your soul!

G(> R> If I were to treat a patient with hyperkalemia, I wouldn't automati-
G(> R> cally recommend chromium, just because it worked for the last person
G(> R> with the same condition.  A patient's *overall* chemistry determines
G(> R> each time the best mineral combination for that particular case, and
G(> R> may include Vit B-12, Vit B-4, Vit E, choline, manganese, magnesium,
G(> R> [chromium], and a phosphorus or protein supplement.
G(>  
G(>  Since hyperkalemia can indicate serious disease, don't you think they
G(>  ought to be checked for that rather than just give them dietary supplements?
G(>  Why do you think they have the hyperkalemia, or does it matter?
G(>
G(>  Gordon Banks

    When patients have renal hypertension, and YOU prescribe slow K,
    don't YOU think they should be checked for that rather than just
    give them a "dietary supplement" (potassium)?
    Why do YOU think they have the hypertension, or does it matter?

    If your knowledge goes far enough to justify the reasoning behind
    prescribing potassium for renal hypertension (or iron for anemia,
    or lithium for mental illness, etc. etc. etc.) - if your learning
    would go farther, it would also justify chemically *matching* the
    above "dietary supplements" (or cause?), to correct hyperkalemia.

     Ron Roth
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If a patient has renal hypertension, the cause is renal, and of
course it matters.  Slow K is not a treatment for renal hypertension.
In cases of renal hypertension, you would more likely need to
restrict postassium.  Or is this some kind of homeopathy, giving
a bit of the "hair of the dog"?  Or do you even know what renal
hypertension is?

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|G(>  Since hyperkalemia can indicate serious disease, don't you think they
|G(>  ought to be checked for that rather than just give them dietary supplements?
|G(>  Why do you think they have the hyperkalemia, or does it matter?
|G(>
|G(>  Gordon Banks
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|    When patients have renal hypertension, and YOU prescribe slow K,
|    don't YOU think they should be checked for that rather than just
|    give them a "dietary supplement" (potassium)?
|    Why do YOU think they have the hypertension, or does it matter?

Why do you answer with an unrelated question of your own (which, as
Gordon has already pointed out is meaningless medically)?

Just answer the question, Ron.  If you can.