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 Solar peak and war - UN proposal for Peak of solar activity and the present religious war. I have sent recently to sci.physics the letter sub title: " Four
mysteries stimulating science". About 80 participants discussed mainly
the subject: " Is it possible to prevent next wars ? " The most
Quote: > > The letter from Andrzej Brodziak
( http://www.***.com/ ;) Quote: > > Somebody wrote recently ( Peter Waldman - The Wall Street
> > Journal-Europe-03.I.2000 ) that four mysteries, since centuries,
> > stimulate science but perhaps will never be solved.
> > These mysteries are:
> > 1. Why and how the Universe occurred ?
> > 2. How the life occurred ?
> > 3. What is consciousness and how to reproduce it ?
> > 4. Is it possible to prevent next wars ?
>That was certainly written by somebody who knows nothing of the
>history of science. Sheesh. Can you name even ONE scientific
>development that came out of a desire to prevent next wars?
>Developing bigger and nastier weapons hardly counts: history shows
>that people do this for its own sake, and they only mouth stuff about
>defense and peace when pressed by women for justification. Otherwise,
>guns, bombs,missiles and other stuff is like bows and arrows and
>spears. Little boys make and play with them naturally, and men spend
>most of the time they're not thinking about women and fast
>transportation, thinking about armor, destructive tools, and
>projectiles. Sorry, but that's how our species is. It's one reason
>why we dominate the world with our puny teeth and muscles, of course--
>so this is not a criticism. As well criticize birds for their wings or
>turtles for their shells. Women have their own concerns which have
>been just as necessary for our survival as a species, but historically
>these things have not contributed much to the sciences until rather
>recently.
> History shows that science is and has been driven in the last couple
> of millennia mostly by the love of men for certain cool stuff, which
>is to say projectile weapons, fast transportation, protective clothing,
> destructive tools, and fortified buildings.
I agree that , in general, scientists are not interested in this subject. But the present war is very serious because , in my opinion, it is enhanced by present geophysical situation. It can sound strange to many politicians but it can be convincing to physicists and neurophysiologists. Therefore I would like to remember some data about this thesis. 1 ) I have sent to sci.physics, on 03.04.1999- through the
username genia01" the letter sub title: "Geophysics and the total
religious war". I quote here the fragments of this letter:
[ "So called micropulsations acts on the human brain tissue and tune
the set-point signal of some important neuronal circuits, which "keep"
believes. There are a very particular characteristics of the
micropulsations according to the geographical latitude. The band 30 + -
10 degree is very particular. It is proved by geophysical measurements,
which are as follow:
-------------------------------------------------------------
Geographical
latitude
Pc1 frequencies
( period of
oscillations
in seconds )
Pc3
frequencies in Hz
-------------------------------------------------------------------
70 degree 0,2 400
60 0,5 100
55 3,8 55
50 4,8 28
45 5,5 24
40 5,0 18
30 5,5 10
20 7,0 2
latitude
<20degree lack of Pc1 lack of Pc3
equator lack of Pc1 lack of Pc3
Probably , also so called excesses of W.O. Schumann resonance are
very particular in this band.
On the geographical latitudes 30+ - 10 degree, as anybody knows, the
following countries are situated : >Marocco, Algeria, Libya, Egypt,
Israel, Libyan, Syria, Iraq ( Mesopotamia ), and also : Italy (Rome),
Albania ( Kosovo ), Macedonia, Greece, Iran, Pakistan, Northern part of
India, Nepal, Tibet, Southern part of China, Hong Kong, Taiwan,
Southern part of Japan, Hawaii, California, Mexico (Yucatan ), Florida,
Bermuda islands >
The new technological, scientific and especially religious
philosophical concepts were formulated mainly in these countries. The
ideological, vivid controversies and religious wars occur also
usually in these regions.
Moreover , the fights become more intense in the time of the peak
of the actual cycle of the solar activity. We are now just near the
peak of so called 23-rd cycle. Anybody can get detailed data about
the "solar activity from http://www.***.com/
When w will consider these geophysical phenomena with data from the
realm of the cognitive sciences, related to the conditions of a low
self-esteem maintained throughout generations we will see clearly the
way how to avoid the religious wars. For details see my paper :
Brodziak A.: [ Is the synthesis of brain sciences necessary ? - or how
too avoid new religious wars ? - "Czy integrowanie nauk o mzgu jest
nam potrzebne, czyli jak unikn1? nowych wojen z innowiercami"].
Przegl1d lekarski, 1994,51,6,255-260.
The outline of the human psyche :-) , which is essential to be able to
understand people who are fundamentalists , it means under the control
of the Jung' ian archetype of so called "Great ( Hurted ) Sage" is
accessible in: http://www.***.com/
The idea explained in the above letter is developed in my
book : "Solar storm is coming" [ accessible under:
http://www.***.com/ ;,unfortunately in Polish
language only ].
( 2 ) Dr Rod P. O'Connor (
http://www.***.com/ ), neuro-
physiologue scientist, from the Michael A. Persinger's school (
http://www.***.com/
Tue, 06 Apr 1999 the letter related to this subject. Details see :
http://www.***.com/ ;. They published
afterwards the paper : Persinger MA; Wars and increased solar-
geomagnetic activity: aggression or change in intraspecies {*filter*}?
(Percept Mot Skills, 1999 Jun, Abstract available) [MEDLINE]
It is useful to remark that apart of the present great solar spot
number and intense solar flux ( radio wave emission ) the strong
geomagnetic storms occur. Two last strongest happened on and
October 4-5 th. The building of Serbian Parlament was fired on
5th.
So , it seems to me that the time came for the organization of
seminars, workshops and conferences of physicists , neuro-
physiologists, neural scientists [ with very few politicians having
enough of psychological insight ] on the subject which is really
very soft , week, feminine and not-serious, it means : "How to
prevent next religious wars ? ". As first topics of those conferences ,
apart of appreciation for geophysical influences, I would like to
propose a UN new action to obligate any government to introduce to the
educational programs of primary and secondary school the subject of
neuroscience and psychology. The detailed schedule of this program
should be discussed.
The letter from
Andrzej Brodziak
http://www.***.com/
http://www.***.com/
http://www.***.com/
Sent via Deja.com http://www.***.com/
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John
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Solar peak and war - UN proposal for Pardon the top-posting, but this looks like an interesting piece of solar-related speculation, so I'm adding a solar astronomy group to the group list in the hope that people there might comment on the solar-terrestrial physics discussed below. My own opinion is that climatic and cultural reasons are more explanatory for the religious-related controversy in the 30-degree latitude region in the discussion below. The recent outbreak of fighting appears to have been somewhat coordinated or orchestrated as a response to the lack of Israeli agreement to a probably unrealistic proposal. In other words, politics and religion are on the surface better explanations. Can it be shown that people in that region fall for fanatical religion as a result of EM radiation? Why not consider that the cause may be just the heat frying brain cells? John
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> Peak of solar activity and the present religious war. > I have sent recently to sci.physics the letter sub title: " Four
> mysteries stimulating science". About 80 participants discussed mainly
> the subject: " Is it possible to prevent next wars ? " The most
> > > The letter from Andrzej Brodziak
> ( http://www.***.com/ ;)
> > > Somebody wrote recently ( Peter Waldman - The Wall Street
> > > Journal-Europe-03.I.2000 ) that four mysteries, since centuries,
> > > stimulate science but perhaps will never be solved.
> > > These mysteries are:
> > > 1. Why and how the Universe occurred ?
> > > 2. How the life occurred ?
> > > 3. What is consciousness and how to reproduce it ?
> > > 4. Is it possible to prevent next wars ?
> >That was certainly written by somebody who knows nothing of the
> >history of science. Sheesh. Can you name even ONE scientific
> >development that came out of a desire to prevent next wars?
> >Developing bigger and nastier weapons hardly counts: history shows
> >that people do this for its own sake, and they only mouth stuff about
> >defense and peace when pressed by women for justification. Otherwise,
> >guns, bombs,missiles and other stuff is like bows and arrows and
> >spears. Little boys make and play with them naturally, and men spend
> >most of the time they're not thinking about women and fast
> >transportation, thinking about armor, destructive tools, and
> >projectiles. Sorry, but that's how our species is. It's one reason
> >why we dominate the world with our puny teeth and muscles, of course--
> >so this is not a criticism. As well criticize birds for their wings or
> >turtles for their shells. Women have their own concerns which have
> >been just as necessary for our survival as a species, but historically
> >these things have not contributed much to the sciences until rather
> >recently.
> > History shows that science is and has been driven in the last couple
> > of millennia mostly by the love of men for certain cool stuff, which
> >is to say projectile weapons, fast transportation, protective clothing,
> > destructive tools, and fortified buildings.
> I agree that , in general, scientists are not interested in
> this subject. But the present war is very serious because , in my
> opinion, it is enhanced by present geophysical situation. It can
> sound strange to many politicians but it can be convincing to
> physicists and neurophysiologists. Therefore I would like to remember
> some data about this thesis.
> 1 ) I have sent to sci.physics, on 03.04.1999- through the
> username genia01" the letter sub title: "Geophysics and the total
> religious war". I quote here the fragments of this letter:
> [ "So called micropulsations acts on the human brain tissue and tune
> the set-point signal of some important neuronal circuits, which "keep"
> believes. There are a very particular characteristics of the
> micropulsations according to the geographical latitude. The band 30 + -
> 10 degree is very particular. It is proved by geophysical measurements,
> which are as follow:
> -------------------------------------------------------------
> Geographical
> latitude
> Pc1 frequencies
> ( period of
> oscillations
> in seconds )
> Pc3
> frequencies in Hz
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> 70 degree 0,2 400
> 60 0,5 100
> 55 3,8 55
> 50 4,8 28
> 45 5,5 24
> 40 5,0 18
> 30 5,5 10
> 20 7,0 2
> latitude
> <20degree lack of Pc1 lack of Pc3
> equator lack of Pc1 lack of Pc3
> Probably , also so called excesses of W.O. Schumann resonance are
> very particular in this band.
> On the geographical latitudes 30+ - 10 degree, as anybody knows, the
> following countries are situated : >Marocco, Algeria, Libya, Egypt,
> Israel, Libyan, Syria, Iraq ( Mesopotamia ), and also : Italy (Rome),
> Albania ( Kosovo ), Macedonia, Greece, Iran, Pakistan, Northern part of
> India, Nepal, Tibet, Southern part of China, Hong Kong, Taiwan,
> Southern part of Japan, Hawaii, California, Mexico (Yucatan ), Florida,
> Bermuda islands >
> The new technological, scientific and especially religious
> philosophical concepts were formulated mainly in these countries. The
> ideological, vivid controversies and religious wars occur also
> usually in these regions.
> Moreover , the fights become more intense in the time of the peak
> of the actual cycle of the solar activity. We are now just near the
> peak of so called 23-rd cycle. Anybody can get detailed data about
> the "solar activity from http://www.***.com/
> When w will consider these geophysical phenomena with data from the
> realm of the cognitive sciences, related to the conditions of a low
> self-esteem maintained throughout generations we will see clearly the
> way how to avoid the religious wars. For details see my paper :
> Brodziak A.: [ Is the synthesis of brain sciences necessary ? - or how
> too avoid new religious wars ? - "Czy integrowanie nauk o mzgu jest
> nam potrzebne, czyli jak unikn1? nowych wojen z innowiercami"].
> Przegl1d lekarski, 1994,51,6,255-260.
> The outline of the human psyche :-) , which is essential to be able to
> understand people who are fundamentalists , it means under the control
> of the Jung' ian archetype of so called "Great ( Hurted ) Sage" is
> accessible in: http://www.***.com/
> The idea explained in the above letter is developed in my
> book : "Solar storm is coming" [ accessible under:
> http://www.***.com/ ;,unfortunately in Polish
> language only ].
> ( 2 ) Dr Rod P. O'Connor (
> http://www.***.com/ ), neuro-
> physiologue scientist, from the Michael A. Persinger's school (
> http://www.***.com/
> Tue, 06 Apr 1999 the letter related to this subject. Details see :
> http://www.***.com/ ;. They published
> afterwards the paper : Persinger MA; Wars and increased solar-
> geomagnetic activity: aggression or change in intraspecies {*filter*}?
> (Percept Mot Skills, 1999 Jun, Abstract available) [MEDLINE]
> It is useful to remark that apart of the present great solar spot
> number and intense solar flux ( radio wave emission ) the strong
> geomagnetic storms occur. Two last strongest happened on and
> October 4-5 th. The building of Serbian Parlament was fired on
> 5th.
> So , it seems to me that the time came for the organization of
> seminars, workshops and conferences of physicists , neuro-
> physiologists, neural scientists [ with very few politicians having
> enough of psychological insight ] on the subject which is really
> very soft , week, feminine and not-serious, it means : "How to
> prevent next religious wars ? ". As first topics of those conferences ,
> apart of appreciation for geophysical influences, I would like to
> propose a UN new action to obligate any government to introduce to the
> educational programs of primary and secondary school the subject of
> neuroscience and psychology. The detailed schedule of this program
> should be discussed.
> The letter from
> Andrzej Brodziak
> http://www.***.com/
> http://www.***.com/
> http://www.***.com/
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.***.com/
> Before you buy.
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Pola
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Solar peak and war - UN proposal for
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Quote: >The recent outbreak of fighting appears to
>have been somewhat coordinated or orchestrated as a response
>to the lack of Israeli agreement to a probably unrealistic proposal.
[...] A simplistic evaluation of a carefully orchestrated -- yes, there we
agree -- by the PLO and its extremist allies, Fatah and Hamas, which
have systematically undermined any peace agreements just on the verge
of fruition, no matter how much Israel offered to give away.
I wonder how many people have just read the newspaper headlines,
seen the propagandistic front page pictures [1] or listened to the
30-second sound bites on TV, rather than dig for the facts.
[1] Such as the one in which a U.S. Jewish man was dragged from his
car and beaten by the Palestinian mob. An Israel soldier was standing
over him for protection. The media widely publicized this as a
*Palestinian* being abused by an Israeli soldier.
That is only ONE of myriad misstatements and misinterpretations by the
media. I guess that approach sells papers, but it is criminally
dishonest.
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Polar
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Dirk Bruer
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Quote: > A simplistic evaluation of a carefully orchestrated -- yes, there we
> agree -- by the PLO and its extremist allies, Fatah and Hamas, which
> have systematically undermined any peace agreements just on the verge
> of fruition, no matter how much Israel offered to give away.
> I wonder how many people have just read the newspaper headlines,
> seen the propagandistic front page pictures [1] or listened to the
> 30-second sound bites on TV, rather than dig for the facts.
OK. Care to give us some facts? Say, the number of Israeli children killed by palestinians v the number of Palestinian children killed by Israelis? Dirk
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Mark Fergerso
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Solar peak and war - UN proposal for Quote:
> Peak of solar activity and the present religious war.
<snip> Is some component of solar radiation (or its effect on the
magnetosphere) affecting the "God part of the brain"?
http://www.godpart.com/
If so, what do we do, make tinfoil helmets mandatory for
_everybody_, or just Faraday-shield the whole damn planet?
Mark L. Fergerson
BTW; Are atheists mutants who don't have the referenced part of the
brain? If true, who's really "normal"?
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Pola
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Solar peak and war - UN proposal for On Sun, 15 Oct 2000 21:24:47 +0100, "Dirk Bruere" Quote:
>> A simplistic evaluation of a carefully orchestrated -- yes, there we
>> agree -- by the PLO and its extremist allies, Fatah and Hamas, which
>> have systematically undermined any peace agreements just on the verge
>> of fruition, no matter how much Israel offered to give away.
>> I wonder how many people have just read the newspaper headlines,
>> seen the propagandistic front page pictures [1] or listened to the
>> 30-second sound bites on TV, rather than dig for the facts.
>OK. Care to give us some facts?
>Say, the number of Israeli children killed by palestinians v the number of
>Palestinian children killed by Israelis?
Note that Israeli children are not taken out of their schools and sent to stand in front of stone-throwing {*filter*}s. This is, however, the case with Palestinian children. At the beginning of the current unrest (which predates Sharon's visit to the Temple Mount by at least ten days), Palestinian schools were closed and the children sent out to take the brunt of Israel counter-attack. Palestinian children are methodically indictrinated in their schools
to hate Israelis.
Even Israeli Arabs, who benefit from higher standards of living than
their counterparts outside of Israel, are influenced by Palestinian
propaganda to buy into the prevailing mythos. The antagonism of some
Israelis (who had plenty of reason, heaven knows, to fear the enemy
within; hardly a family has not lost one of more members in the five
wars!) did not help any, despite the efforts of the Left to build
bridges.
It is very difficult for Westerners, even those who take the trouble
to look beyond the headlines, newspaper-selling atrocity photos, and
TV sound-bites to understand just how different the Arab mentality is.
Suggested reading: "The Arab Mind" by distinguished scholar Raphael
Patai, who also wrote "The Hebrew Mind".
They really believe in the concept of martyrdom, which will reward
them with Paradise, fully equipped with shady trees, bubbling
fountains, and an endless supply of dark-eyed {*filter*}s.
A Palestinian mother who lost her husband in a confrontation with the
Israeli authorities (he refused to obey military orders), just lost
one of her sons in the current conflict. And now she is quoted as
"preparing her [remaining] son for martyrdom".
The Arab mind is romantic; easily inflamed; prone to act rashly on
rumour A perfect example is the current situation: Sharon, who is
certainly no poster boy with all Israelis, and is virulently hated by
the Palestinians, carefully checked with the relevant Palestinian
authority before making his visit to the Temple Mount. He wa given the
go-ahead, provided he did not enter the mosques - which of course he
did not.
Yet almost every Western medium, copying from each other and from
uninformed press releases, attributes the beginning of the unrest to
that visit. Whereas it was organized and orchestrated days ahead, and
only used the Sharon visit as a pretext.
Another example is the ham-hamded way the Israelis handled the opening
of an archeological tunnel a year or so ago. It did NOT go under the
Temple Mount, but skirted it by a good piece. Yet, as soon as the
word spread among the Palestinians that the Israelis were " tunneling
under the Temple Mount, and were bent on destruction of the Islamic
holy site" all hell broke looose and more lives were lost.
Understand that life is not valued the same way by them as by us.
Factor in the martyr mythology, and the complex political machinations
of the corrupt and venal and dictatorial Arafat, as well as the
fanatic Hizbollah, Hamas, and Fatah -- as well as Israeli political
maneuvering among Right and Left parties -- and *anything* will serve
as pretext for an uprising.
So please don't come on with the Palestinian children! They are sent
out in cold {*filter*} by the {*filter*}s, to die as propaganda.
Nice, huh?
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Polar
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John
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Solar peak and war - UN proposal for Quote:
> [...]
> >The recent outbreak of fighting appears to
> >have been somewhat coordinated or orchestrated as a response
> >to the lack of Israeli agreement to a probably unrealistic proposal.
> [...]
> A simplistic evaluation of a carefully orchestrated -- yes, there we
> agree -- by the PLO and its extremist allies, Fatah and Hamas, which
> have systematically undermined any peace agreements just on the verge
> of fruition, no matter how much Israel offered to give away.
This thread is getting away from it's original idea, that there may be something about Earth's electromagnetic field that makes Mideast people wacky. It's not hard to agree that the Israeli/Palestinian dispute involves tons of propaganda---let's leave it at that. There are plenty of forums in which to argue about politics, propaganda and so forth. Can we get back to arguing about whether there's something in Mideast electromagnetism that drives people nuts? It makes as much sense as thinking something's in their water. My take on the matter is that they stand outside in the hot sun and the heat fries their cerebral cortex. Check it out---do people who work in airconditioned offices go nuts, or is it just those who work in the heat? We've got an electromagnetic cause on the table to discuss---science, anyone? John
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John
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> > Peak of solar activity and the present religious war.
> <snip>
> Is some component of solar radiation (or its effect on the
> magnetosphere) affecting the "God part of the brain"?
You must have been reading G. Hammond's junk too long. The idea presented by brodziak is that something about the earth's EM field, when subjected to solar storms, makes people crazy or stupid especially around the 30-degree latitude. An easy way to test this idea would be to subject volunteers to a similar artificial field and see how it affects their critical thinking vs credulity. I'm inclined to think the problem is that heat in that part of the world bakes the brains of people who don't have airconditioning, thereby impairing their thinking and making them gullible enough to fall for any preaching that comes along. John
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brodzia..
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> > Peak of solar activity and the present religious war. > <snip> > Is some component of solar radiation (or its effect on the > magnetosphere) affecting the "God part of the brain"? > http://www.godpart.com/ > If so, what do we do, make tinfoil helmets mandatory for
> _everybody_, or just Faraday-shield the whole damn planet?
> Mark L. Fergerson
> BTW; Are atheists mutants who don't have the referenced part of the
> brain? If true, who's really "normal"?
................................................................. I think that a simple way going to prevent next wars could consist on the serious control by UN authorities -- if the teaching programs in primary and secondary schools of any country ( especially in 30+- 10 degree of geographical latitude ) encompass the subject of [ neural sciences + psychology ] . People should realize when they begin to feel inferior , begin to hate and want to revenge. Probably an appropriate limit ( critical value ) of the proportion of people having insight is essential to prevent a group ( nationalistic ) revenge. From
Andrzej Brodziak
http://salve.slam.katowice.pl/phenomen.html
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brodzia..
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proposal.
> > [...]
> This thread is getting away from it's original idea, that there may
> be something about Earth's electromagnetic field that makes Mideast
> people wacky. It's not hard to agree that the Israeli/Palestinian
> dispute involves tons of propaganda---let's leave it at that. There
> are plenty of forums in which to argue about politics, propaganda
> and so forth. Can we get back to arguing about whether there's
> something in Mideast electromagnetism that drives people nuts? It
> makes as much sense as thinking something's in their water. My
> take on the matter is that they stand outside in the hot sun and
> the heat fries their cerebral cortex. Check it out---do people who
> work in airconditioned offices go nuts, or is it just those who work
> in the heat? We've got an electromagnetic cause on the table to
> discuss---science, anyone?
> John
................................................................... My theory is testable. One of possible way going to verify the hypothesis would consist on simultaneous recording of EEG and some geophysical parameters in several countries and during all the solar cycle. Of course there are many epidemiological, social and historical intermediary arguments. When you will plot the diagrams of several former solar cycles ( accessible e.g. under http://dxlc.com/solar/ ) you could remark coincidences. The communist ideology and empire was decomposed by several leaps. First step ( Solidarity in Poland, 1980 ) had coincided with the peak of 21-th solar cycle, second step (Round Table - in Poland, dissolution of Soviet Union, 1990 ) had coincided with the highest activity of 22-th cycle. Of course the peak of solar activity doesn't support particular ideological option. It arouses only mental and physical activity. Thinking become slightly paranoid. People are much more stubborn. Usually, the actual social order changes , which is already week. Sometime the change has revolutionary character or it is war. It is not clear why. Eric Berne, in his book "Games people play", try to define conditions, which determine that people prefer war. From Andrzej Brodziak http://salve.slam.katopwice.pl/phenomen.html
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Mark Fergerso
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<snip>
Quote: > I think that a simple way going to prevent next wars could consist on
> the serious control by UN authorities -- if the teaching programs in
> primary and secondary schools of any country ( especially in 30+- 10
> degree of geographical latitude ) encompass the subject of [ neural
> sciences + psychology ] . People should realize when they begin to
> feel inferior , begin to hate and want to revenge. Probably an
> appropriate limit ( critical value ) of the proportion of people having
> insight is essential to prevent a group ( nationalistic ) revenge.
But it won't work, at least not yet. If I understand you correctly, you're proposing that everyone be taught that their behavior is influenced by something they can't sense directly. Most folks already "know" this, except they call it "religion". For nearly everyone who would benefit from your proposal, it would merely start a new series of religious wars as you try to replace many old, comfortable sects with a single new, uncomfortable one (which doesn't even have any icons or ritual). You _cannot_ educate people out of their cultural dead-ends on a mass basis. Only individuals are capable of seeing truth and stepping out of the box. How many educated individuals it takes to get below "critical mass" is an interesting question; how many fanatics does it take to motivate a generally peaceful population? The real problem isn't semantics, though, it's simple intellectual
laziness. When people are advised to monitor their own behavior for
undesirable tendencies, they promptly rationalize all kinds of
horrific actions with whatever excuse is handy rather than admit to
themselves the paradox; that what they call "insanity" in others is
"right thinking" in themselves. Rationalization is absolutely
essential when a person or group of persons must do whatever they can
to survive. The body does the survival thing, the mind is just a
passenger. Other people are instantly dehumanized, hence their thought
processes and suffering become moot.
I am firmly convinced that nothing has caused more misery,
suffering, destruction and repression of our species as has organized
religion. Until our cultural obsession with Official Fairy Tales is
broken, we'll never be anything but partially bald apes.
Mark L. Fergerson
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Richard Herri
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> .................................................................
> I think that a simple way going to prevent next wars could consist on
> the serious control by UN authorities -- if the teaching programs in
> primary and secondary schools of any country ( especially in 30+- 10
> degree of geographical latitude )
Is there a longitude dependence, and if so, why? I only ask because 30 +/- 10 degrees includes the southern USA,
Mexico, parts of China and many other nations which don't exhibit
the problems you address. Well, not the same problems, anyway :-/
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