Not related directly, but may help.  A remedy I learned for nosebleed
was to hold a wet teabag on the nostrils like a poultice.  The tannic
acid or caffine; I forget; works as a vaso-constrictor, and stops the
nosebleed faster.

- dee

( Another great remedy is to use wet tobacco on bug bites/stings, like
bee stings.  The nicotene apparently breaks down the protein in the venom,
and reduces the reaction.  My sister & I always had camel cigaretts in
the summer for this )

Wow, you really hit a nerve (a vessel?) with the nosebeleeds question

- have been getting them all my life
- blowing or picking or dry weather definitely increases frequency, but
they are not only cause
- have had my nose cauterized a half-dozen times, hurts like hell (acid
on nasal membranes), works sometimes for a year, week, not at all
- vaseline to keep nose moist is good idea - I am currently testing

To stop nosebleed
- DO NOT tip head back
- press nose closed HARD for 5 minutes
- try a chunk of kleenex in your upper lip (like people put tobacco in
their bottom lip) this constricts the {*filter*} vessel, allowing better
clotting.  However, don't take it out too soon.

I have a hard nose (stiff), I think this somehow has something to do with it.

During my sophomore year of college, I was chronically sick and lived in a
very hot, dry room.  Consequently, my nose would bleed several times a
day.  (Once, it didn't stop for twenty minutes, scaring the hell out of
me.)

I was told to apply white petroleum jelly (I'm pretty sure it was this and
not normal vaseline) to the inside of the affected nostril.  Although I
was skeptical, it worked pretty well.

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I just checked.  It was White Petrolatum U.S.P.

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I had a lot of nosebleeds as a kid and was told this also (that it
wouldn't hurt at all and just took a moment). It really took about
15 minutes and it did hurt a _lot_. The nose is very sensitive (atleast
mine is) and doesn't like being burned with chemicals. Also it didn't
stop the nose bleeds. What has helped is to smear a tiny bit of vasalene
up into the nostrils on the tissue that bleeds. This keeps it from
drying out and totally stops the nose bleeds for me. Feels weird the
first time but it doesn't hurt at all and it works.

Vaseline is a tradename for one brand of White Petrolatum U.S.P.

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Steve Dyer

|> I was told to apply white petroleum jelly (I'm pretty sure it was this and
|> not normal vaseline) to the inside of the affected nostril.  Although I
|> was skeptical, it worked pretty well.

It works for me too, although I actually used vaseline. Smells bad, but
keeps me from bleeding to death. I'll look for wome white petroleum jelly.
Where is a good place?

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The vast majority of nosebleeds in children are innocuous and are due to
vigorous nose blowing, local inflammation or trauma, or vasomotor allergy.
However, if the nosebleeds are *recurrent* I would definitely have a thorough
workup since rarely the cause of the epistaxis (nosebleed) can be more
serious (foreign body, malignant growth, hypertension, aortic stenosis,
platelet disorders, vessel abnormality, etc.).

Josh

Regarding nosebleeds:

The best thing I've found for nosebleeds is an acute homeopathic formula
called Ferrum Phos (6x potency) available at most health cooking.net">food stores.
Just  4-6 tablets dissolved under the tongue does the job.  Normally once
will do it.  If it persists, every 15 minutes or so until person feels
stabilized.  Use only as needed on an acute basis.  Lightweight tablets
are ideal for medicine cabinet, purse, backpack or briefcase.

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Hmmm...... that sounds like a bunch of Hooie stuff to me, but that is just
my opinion.

In grade school in the winter I would have 2-3 nosebleeds per week.  The
school secretary/nurse and I became quite familiar :-)

Anyways, the best method I found is once the nose bleed starts,
blow your nose to remove any mucus that prevents proper clotting.  Then
pinch the *soft* part of the nose, and tilt your head forward.  Ice or
a cold washcloth used to help pinch can speed up the clotting.  I still
hate the "old bag" that pinched the bony part of my nose HARD and pushed
my head back - because she "knew" what was best.  I swallowed enough
{*filter*} that I became {*filter*}ly sick to my stomach.  The vomit through
the nose of course restarted the nosebleed...

In Jr. High, after one day of shopping with my mom with a on-again/off-again
nosebleed that wouldn't stop, she finially took me to the doctor's office.
Because they couldn't get it to stop, he cauterized my nose in about
4 places.  It only took a minute with this chemical stick, and hurt
like h*ll, but I have probably only had a dozen or two nose bleeds since
then.  

If your child has a lot of nosebleeds, get a humidifier in the winter
(at the time I lived in Wisconsin - lots of dry heated buildings), and
see your doctor... Our doctor didn't bring up cauterization until
I was there with a bad nosebleed, but if he had done it, I could have
been saved several winters of nasy nosebleeds, stained pillow-cases,
stained shirts, etc. etc.

Good Luck!

Dan

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My left heel has began hurting when I point my toes up and apply pressure
to the heel.  I play indoor soccer and raquetball which are {*filter*} your
feet.  I'm wonding if I could and achilles heels (spelling?) or I've heard
of a heel spur (looks like the end of a ckicken foot where the bone grows a
spur).  Or it could be a broken bone...I'm not sure.  What do the two
conditions feel like?

If the pain continues, I'll probably end up having my foot X-ray'd.

Thanks,

Bucky

Then again, it can go the other way.  If you _really_ bleed a lot
and your {*filter*} doesn't clot quickly, leaning forward is just a bad
idea.  I lost more than one set of clothing to the school nurse telling
me that I didn't know what I was doing.  The only thing I found that
_did_ work, was to press an icecube against the artery on the bridge of
the nose.  Of course, if someone else tried to do this _for_ me, the
results might have been as disasterous as yours.  Generally, it's a
bad idea to manhandle anyone who's bleeding, unless you're afraid that
they're going to start panic running.  In that case, you knock them
down as fast as you can and try to get them calm.

Things to try before cauterization (which _does_ hurt and doesn't always
work):  
        make sure the child doesn't have any allergies.  A constantly
        runny nose with inflammed nasal and sinusoidal membranes is a great way
        to provoke nosebleeds.  Make sure to see a doctor about this,
        because there are several very effective {*filter*} for allergies
        now that have very many less side-effects than the ones sold
        over the counter just now.

        Use a vaporizer.  Don't use euchalyptus oil or menthol unless
        you're already established that the stuff won't cause a worse
        allergic reaction.

        Try _gently_ irrigating the nostrils with saline solution once
        or twice a day.  This will help clean out muccus without further
        irritating the nasal membranes and it'll also clean out any
        dust or pollens stuck in the nostrils--a boon if you're allergic.

        If dry air is the problem, also consider using something to
        moisturize the nasal lining.  Either add a small amount of
        glycerin to the saline spray or very lightly coat the nostrils
        with white petroleum (that's vaseline, but there are other
        types that smell better.  cost more, though.).  Another
        moisturizer I have used to some effect is aloe vera gel.
        If you use aloe vera, make sure you buy the type that has
        no dye or fragrance and a minimum of added substances (there's
        usually a preservative added, which is okay.  Large amounts
        of propylene glycol may or may not be okay).

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Also, kids often insert their fingers in their noses and scratch the
insides because of a dry environment. It's worth hiking the humidity in the
house while people are there and then letting it dry out, to kill the dust
mites, when people aren't.

Jackie Aldridge