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Does Valiarn root give birth to Valium?

Michael----

Just the usual, thanks. I just had a bar of soap......

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> >     Nod.  HOWEVER, the reason people dis the herbalists is that in many
> >cases, those herbalists have no idea of what they're talking about.

> So? What's your point? Same is true of lots of doctors, or any other
> profession for that matter.

> >      *COULD* there be wonderfully beneficial medicinal plants?  Sure.  Is
> >there research to support the claims of WonderWeed, the Herb of the Month?
> >No.  

> Utter nonsense of course. Not only have many herbs and plants been
> used medicinaly and successfully for at least tens of thousands of
> years (hundreds of thousands, more likely), but even most modern
> allopathic {*filter*} were first discovered in plants, and only once
> identified and analysed from this natural source could the subtance be
> synthesized (aspirin is one of the most common examples, there are
> countless others). Of course, no one denies this, not even the
> pharmecuetacal companies, who spend large amounts of money every year
> researching new plants Even if one uses solely scientific research as
> a guide, your statements are patently adsurd.

> Joe



Sat, 15 Aug 1998 03:00:00 GMT
 Doctors and "science"
I have often wondered about the possible Valerian/Valium connection but
have been assured many times that diazapam has nothing in common with the
active components present in Valerian.

However, nobody has bothered to state what the active components in
Valerian are.

Hmmm.  Do wonder how they came up with the name.

Valerian tastes *terrible* to me but it sure works.  Anyone know what's
up?

dn

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>Does Valiarn root give birth to Valium?

>Michael----

>Just the usual, thanks. I just had a bar of soap......



Mon, 17 Aug 1998 03:00:00 GMT
 Doctors and "science"

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>I have often wondered about the possible Valerian/Valium connection but
>have been assured many times that diazapam has nothing in common with
the
>active components present in Valerian.

>However, nobody has bothered to state what the active components in
>Valerian are.

That's because nobody knows for sure.  Experimental results are
conflicting, and no single pure compound from Valerian has ever been
tested in a thorough fashion.

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>Hmmm.  Do wonder how they came up with the name.

Me, too.  It's a Roche tradename for a drug, discovered essentially in a
random search of compounds for tranquilizing properties, and which is
not related to anything in Valerian (so far as is known), though has
some similar effects.  My guess is that somebody at Roche, when they
named Valium, either consciously or unconsciously had in mind Valerian's
reputation as a safe hypnotic and tranquilizer.  Probably consciously,
as drug companies spend an inordinate amount of time on product brand
(trade) names for {*filter*}.  Look at the brilliant "Elavil."  A good name
can turn a perfectly pedestrian pharmaceutical into a superstar.

                                           Steve Harris, M.D.



Tue, 18 Aug 1998 03:00:00 GMT
 
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