Medical, Hyppocratic Oath: what is a 'pessary'?

Hyppocratic Oath: what is a 'pessary'?

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J Aldrid #1 / 6	Hyppocratic Oath: what is a 'pessary'? Quote: >>>Pessary is an old fashioned name for a diaphram. >>Why would Hyppocraties think that a pessary would induce {filter}? >The injunction is not just against {filter}, but against contraception. >Until about 30 years ago, it was illegal in many jurisdictions in developed >countries for doctors to provide information and assistance to women for >contraception. Of course, these laws were not much honored towards the end, >but it was a long and bitter fight for what we now take for granted. How >many of you remember when {filter}s were labelled: "sold for the prevention >of disease only"? >Doctors who provide birth control info are already "in violation" of >the Hippocratic Oath. Things have changed in 2000 years. Baloney Sausage.....birth control hasn't been illegal long and only in some countries. {filter}s were common the world over and throughout history. Read "Mothers" written in the 1930's. It logged as many kinds of {filter} methods and birth control methods as it could find. Effective birth control methods haven't been around all that long. The {filter} dates back to the middle ages (at least). Sponges were used since ancient egypt. Abortive {filter}, safe and unsafe have been around for a very long time. {filter} methods have varied from really dumb to sophisticated. Camel drivers used gold buttons in the camel's uterus and that's the where ideas about IUDs came from (they should probably still be using gold). Nothing compares with the quality of what's available now although the U.S. is falling behind Europe. Jackie
Tue, 19 Aug 1997 10:57:47 GMT

Beverly Erlebach #2 / 6	Hyppocratic Oath: what is a 'pessary'? Quote: >>Pessary is an old fashioned name for a diaphram. >Why would Hyppocraties think that a pessary would induce {filter}? The injunction is not just against {filter}, but against contraception. Until about 30 years ago, it was illegal in many jurisdictions in developed countries for doctors to provide information and assistance to women for contraception. Of course, these laws were not much honored towards the end, but it was a long and bitter fight for what we now take for granted. How many of you remember when {filter}s were labelled: "sold for the prevention of disease only"? Doctors who provide birth control info are already "in violation" of the Hippocratic Oath. Things have changed in 2000 years.
Tue, 19 Aug 1997 01:20:47 GMT

Patrick A. Tiffa #3 / 6	Hyppocratic Oath: what is a 'pessary'? Quote: >Subject: Re: Hyppocratic Oath: what is a 'pessary'? >Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 17:20:47 GMT >writes: >writes: >>>Pessary is an old fashioned name for a diaphram. >The injunction is not just against {filter}, but against contraception. Actually, the word "pessary" can also mean "{filter}l suppository," which is probably closer to the original meaning and context, i.e., a suppository inserted into the {filter} for the purpose of inducing {filter}.
Tue, 19 Aug 1997 07:00:20 GMT

Todd Brow #4 / 6	Hyppocratic Oath: what is a 'pessary'? Quote: > >>Pessary is an old fashioned name for a diaphram. > >Why would Hyppocraties think that a pessary would induce {filter}? > The injunction is not just against {filter}, but against contraception. > Until about 30 years ago, it was illegal in many jurisdictions in developed > countries for doctors to provide information and assistance to women for > contraception. Of course, these laws were not much honored towards the end, > but it was a long and bitter fight for what we now take for granted. How > many of you remember when {filter}s were labelled: "sold for the prevention > of disease only"? > Doctors who provide birth control info are already "in violation" of > the Hippocratic Oath. Things have changed in 2000 years. I think you might be confused about the term pessary. I think a pessary is a device used by woman to treat incontinence. I believe it is a donut shaped device that is inserted {filter}lly to support the pelvic muscles. It is used for urge incontinence. This is a condition in which the muscles in the urethra are unable to control the flow of urine from the bladder.
Wed, 20 Aug 1997 10:38:40 GMT

Beverly Erlebach #5 / 6	Hyppocratic Oath: what is a 'pessary'? Quote: >> >>Pessary is an old fashioned name for a diaphram. >> >Why would Hyppocraties think that a pessary would induce {filter}? >> The injunction is not just against {filter}, but against contraception. >> Until about 30 years ago, it was illegal in many jurisdictions in developed >> countries for doctors to provide information and assistance to women for >> contraception. Of course, these laws were not much honored towards the end, >> but it was a long and bitter fight for what we now take for granted. How >> many of you remember when {filter}s were labelled: "sold for the prevention >> of disease only"? >I think you might be confused about the term pessary. I think a >pessary is a device used by woman to treat incontinence. I believe >it is a donut shaped device that is inserted {filter}lly to support >the pelvic muscles. It is used for urge incontinence. This is a >condition in which the muscles in the urethra are unable to control >the flow of urine from the bladder. webster: pes-sa-ry n., pl. -ries. 1. Any of various contraceptive or supportive devices placed and worn in the {filter}. 2. A medicated {filter}l suppository.[ME pessarie <Med. Lat. pessarium <LLat. pessum <Gk. pessos] The word translated as pessary in the Hippocratic Oath probably refers to the contraceptive use, since there wouldn't be any point in forbidding the supportive use, except cruelty, perhaps! Contraception by this method involved both mechanical barriers and use of sponges or other absorbent material soaked in vinegar, lemon juice or other {filter}icides. Kids, don't try this at home, for reliability this is definitely in the only-somewhat-better-than-nothing category. ~
Sat, 23 Aug 1997 06:38:11 GMT

The Be #6 / 6	Hyppocratic Oath: what is a 'pessary'? Quote: >webster: >pes-sa-ry n., pl. -ries. 1. Any of various contraceptive or supportive > devices placed and worn in the {filter}. 2. A medicated {filter}l > suppository.[ME pessarie <Med. Lat. pessarium <LLat. pessum <Gk. > pessos] >The word translated as pessary in the Hippocratic Oath probably refers >to the contraceptive use, since there wouldn't be any point in forbidding >the supportive use, except cruelty, perhaps! >Contraception by this method involved both mechanical barriers and use >of sponges or other absorbent material soaked in vinegar, lemon juice >or other {filter}icides. I find it intresting that physicians are deleting this phrase from the oath so that they can do {filter}s. OK by me, but why do they insist that the same oath prevents them from doing leathal injections as a form of execution???
Wed, 27 Aug 1997 05:44:11 GMT

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