A TRUE love story 
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 A TRUE love story

A TRUE Love Story
**************

I shall seek and find you...
I shall take you to bed and have my way with you..
I will make you ache, shake and sweat until you moan and groan...
I will make you beg for mercy....beg for me to stop.
I will exhaust you to the point that you will be relieved when I am
finished with you and you will be weak for days.
You will so happy and you will thank me when I leave.
x
x
x
x
x
x
x
x
x
x
x
x
x
x
x
x
x
x
With all my love, till next time
Flu



Tue, 16 May 2006 00:50:41 GMT
 A TRUE love story

Funny. I'm going to re-port (with credit) in another group.

Quote:

>A TRUE Love Story
>**************

>I shall seek and find you...
>I shall take you to bed and have my way with you..
>I will make you ache, shake and sweat until you moan and groan...
>I will make you beg for mercy....beg for me to stop.
>I will exhaust you to the point that you will be relieved when I am
>finished with you and you will be weak for days.
>You will so happy and you will thank me when I leave.
>x
>x
>x
>x
>x
>x
>x
>x
>x
>x
>x
>x
>x
>x
>x
>x
>x
>x
>With all my love, till next time
>Flu



Tue, 16 May 2006 02:28:53 GMT
 A TRUE love story
Quote:

> A TRUE Love Story
> **************

> I shall seek and find you...
> I shall take you to bed and have my way with you..
> I will make you ache, shake and sweat until you moan and groan...
> I will make you beg for mercy....beg for me to stop.
> I will exhaust you to the point that you will be relieved when I am
> finished with you and you will be weak for days.
> You will so happy and you will thank me when I leave.

[snip]

Quote:
> x
> With all my love, till next time
> Flu

Flu shots have the wrong seriotype this year.  Pookie pookie.

Uncle Al's Linda caught a piece and spent a week near death.  Uncle Al
caught it and had a few days of runny nose - Pauling's Vitamin C
titration works.  A bottle of 100 500 mg Vitamin C tablets and a roll
of paper towels is not so bad.

--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
 (Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
"Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?"  The Net!



Tue, 16 May 2006 03:26:33 GMT
 A TRUE love story


Quote:

>Flu shots have the wrong seriotype this year.  Pookie pookie.

>Uncle Al's Linda caught a piece and spent a week near death.  Uncle Al
>caught it and had a few days of runny nose - Pauling's Vitamin C
>titration works.  A bottle of 100 500 mg Vitamin C tablets and a roll
>of paper towels is not so bad.

Uncle Al commits the fallacy of "post hoc, ergo propter hoc."

PF



Tue, 16 May 2006 04:06:18 GMT
 A TRUE love story

Quote:



> >Flu shots have the wrong seriotype this year.  Pookie pookie.

> >Uncle Al's Linda caught a piece and spent a week near death.  Uncle Al
> >caught it and had a few days of runny nose - Pauling's Vitamin C
> >titration works.  A bottle of 100 500 mg Vitamin C tablets and a roll
> >of paper towels is not so bad.

> Uncle Al commits the fallacy of "post hoc, ergo propter hoc."

Fine.  Catch the flu and ignore Pauling's observations.

Your white {*filter*} cells use ascorbate to reduce molecular oxygen to
superoxide and hydrogen peroxide.  Phagocitized germs and viruses are
blasted to death therewith.  Four or five days into this cellular
immunity attack, hum{*filter*}immunity comes to speed and either you
overcome the infection or you die.  Now you have a choice.

You can burn up to 15 g/day of ascorbate and never have much of an
infection develop.  You can get by with the FDA-recommended daily
allowance of 0.06 g/day of ascorbate and suffer a massive infection
plus the tissue damage concomitant with it, plus advantitious
bacterial infections thereafter (green snot, colored by a
copper-containing oxygenase).

The Pauling observation is straighforward:

   1) Do not do it if you are prone to oxalate kidney stones.
   2) Check with a physician first.
   3) Eat a 500 mg tablet plus a glass of water every half hour until
you get belly rumbling (magensprachen).
   4) Cut ingestion rate to half and half again as appropriate.
   5) If you overdo the Vitamin C you get diarrhea.  Eat less of it.
There is a huge safety margin.
   6) The most monstrous evil flue rapidly recedes to a case of the
sniffles and a lot of peeing.

Uncle Al has not been poleaxed by a cold or the flue in at least 15
years.  No flu shots (the government is in charge).  Th cheapest
mass-produced Vitamin C is the ticket.  Draw your own conclusions.

--
Uncle Al
http://www.***.com/
 (Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
"Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?"  The Net!



Tue, 16 May 2006 07:04:41 GMT
 A TRUE love story

Quote:


> > >Flu shots have the wrong seriotype this year.  Pookie pookie.
> > >Uncle Al's Linda caught a piece and spent a week near death.  Uncle Al
> > >caught it and had a few days of runny nose - Pauling's Vitamin C
> > >titration works.  A bottle of 100 500 mg Vitamin C tablets and a roll
> > >of paper towels is not so bad.

[PF Riley]
> > Uncle Al commits the fallacy of "post hoc, ergo propter hoc."

[Uncle Al]
> Fine.  Catch the flu and ignore Pauling's observations.
> Your white {*filter*} cells use ascorbate to reduce molecular oxygen to
> superoxide and hydrogen peroxide.  Phagocitized germs and viruses are
> blasted to death therewith.  Four or five days into this cellular
> immunity attack, hum{*filter*}immunity comes to speed and either you
> overcome the infection or you die.  Now you have a choice.

> You can burn up to 15 g/day of ascorbate and never have much of an
> infection develop.  You can get by with the FDA-recommended daily
> allowance of 0.06 g/day of ascorbate and suffer a massive infection
> plus the tissue damage concomitant with it, plus advantitious
> bacterial infections thereafter (green snot, colored by a
> copper-containing oxygenase).

> The Pauling observation is straighforward:

>    1) Do not do it if you are prone to oxalate kidney stones.
>    2) Check with a physician first.
>    3) Eat a 500 mg tablet plus a glass of water every half hour until
>    you get belly rumbling (magensprachen).
>    4) Cut ingestion rate to half and half again as appropriate.
>    5) If you overdo the Vitamin C you get diarrhea.  Eat less of it.
>    There is a huge safety margin.
>    6) The most monstrous evil flue rapidly recedes to a case of the
>    sniffles and a lot of peeing.

> Uncle Al has not been poleaxed by a cold or the flue in at least 15
> years.  No flu shots (the government is in charge).  Th cheapest
> mass-produced Vitamin C is the ticket.  Draw your own conclusions.
> --
> Uncle Al

[hanson]
I used to do that Vit-C regimen with pretty good sucsess.
Expect in my case any effective amount of VC's reduction in flu
symptoms was replaced by canker sores developing in my mouth.

The standard "plenty of fluid and Nsaids like Ibuprofen/Advil or
Antitussives like dextromethorphan in Theraflu or antihistamines
like Chlorpheniramine in Benadryl", may suppress the severity of
the flu symptoms, but I think they prolong the agony. The newer
antiviral sugars seem to be still similarly iffy. Never tried them.

Since about a 2 decades ago, I swear by catching the symptoms early,
when irritation of the mucous membranes in the ENT signal invasion
of the virus, such as an itchy nose/ears, watery eyes or scratchy throat
for more than an hour. That's when I swab my nostrils with ZnO/ZnAc2
sol-gel. It has helped me every year to fend off the flus, except  for that
one year when the {*filter*}ing Drs. loaded me up with Steroid- &  NSaids-
Anti-inflammatories to fix my ass after the parachute didn't open
properly. I came down with 8 flus/colds that year.

Especially since then, for me, ZnO/ZnAc2 is the only way to go. I
prepare that thing myself. It's cheap, works great and all the time
for me and the worst side effect that may/has happens/ed to me is
that I may catch some Zinc fever for ~12 hrs.  ---   You can also buy
Zinc sprays and Zn lozenges lately, but they aren't anywhere near as
effective as my personal  ZnO/ZnAc2 sol-gel, a "sledge hammer" flu
treatment, about which my pretty woman always warns and cusses
at me with: "You are going to kill yourself one of these days with
that poison!". -----       Well, I'm still around.... ahahahahaha.....

Anyhoo, all you dudes and dudettes enjoy your carnivorous activity on
and over the carcass of the dead bird tonight & take care of yourself
and things. Love you all as usual and evermore,
ahahahaha........ahahahahhanson



Tue, 16 May 2006 08:24:19 GMT
 A TRUE love story


Quote:


> >Flu shots have the wrong seriotype this year.  Pookie pookie.

> >Uncle Al's Linda caught a piece and spent a week near death.  Uncle
Al
> >caught it and had a few days of runny nose - Pauling's Vitamin C
> >titration works.  A bottle of 100 500 mg Vitamin C tablets and a roll
> >of paper towels is not so bad.

> Uncle Al commits the fallacy of "post hoc, ergo propter hoc."

  http://tinyurl.com/wu45

  Phil Holman



Tue, 16 May 2006 09:03:32 GMT
 A TRUE love story
On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 01:03:32 GMT, "Phil Holman"

Quote:





>> >Flu shots have the wrong seriotype this year.  Pookie pookie.

>> >Uncle Al's Linda caught a piece and spent a week near death.  Uncle
>Al
>> >caught it and had a few days of runny nose - Pauling's Vitamin C
>> >titration works.  A bottle of 100 500 mg Vitamin C tablets and a roll
>> >of paper towels is not so bad.

>> Uncle Al commits the fallacy of "post hoc, ergo propter hoc."

>  http://tinyurl.com/wu45

The results of an unblinded trial, based on self-reporting of
symptoms, with the experimental group and control groups observed
during different seasons, published by chiropractors notwithstanding,
I never made a claim either way about the effectiveness of vitamin C
in the prevention or treatment of upper respiratory infections. I'm
just posting a simple reminder that most things aren't as simple nor
straightforward as they may seem.

PF



Tue, 16 May 2006 14:31:02 GMT
 A TRUE love story

Quote:




> > >Flu shots have the wrong seriotype this year.  Pookie pookie.

> > >Uncle Al's Linda caught a piece and spent a week near death.  Uncle Al
> > >caught it and had a few days of runny nose - Pauling's Vitamin C
> > >titration works.  A bottle of 100 500 mg Vitamin C tablets and a roll
> > >of paper towels is not so bad.

> > Uncle Al commits the fallacy of "post hoc, ergo propter hoc."

> Fine.  Catch the flu and ignore Pauling's observations.

> Your white {*filter*} cells use ascorbate to reduce molecular oxygen to
> superoxide and hydrogen peroxide.  Phagocitized germs and viruses are
> blasted to death therewith.  Four or five days into this cellular
> immunity attack, hum{*filter*}immunity comes to speed and either you
> overcome the infection or you die.  Now you have a choice.

> You can burn up to 15 g/day of ascorbate and never have much of an
> infection develop.  You can get by with the FDA-recommended daily
> allowance of 0.06 g/day of ascorbate and suffer a massive infection
> plus the tissue damage concomitant with it, plus advantitious
> bacterial infections thereafter (green snot, colored by a
> copper-containing oxygenase).

"Green pus (or green nasal mucus) is caused by iron-containing
myelo-peroxidases and other oxidases and peroxidases used by
polymorphonuclear
(PMN) granulocytes (neutrophils)."
http://www.***.com/

I search some more such as:
http://www.***.com/

They all say the color is due to a Fe2+.

paul



Tue, 16 May 2006 18:23:38 GMT
 A TRUE love story


Quote:
> A TRUE Love Story
> **************

> I shall seek and find you...
<snip>
> With all my love, till next time
> Flu

They used antivirals on the Olympic athletes to help combat the flu during
the last Olympics (with great success).
I wonder why you never hear of them being used by friends and relatives or
recommended by the family doctor?
Are they too expensive??
Do they have bad side effects??

Gregg



Tue, 16 May 2006 20:25:12 GMT
 A TRUE love story


Quote:
> On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 01:03:32 GMT, "Phil Holman"



> >> On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 11:26:33 -0800, Uncle Al


Quote:

> >> >Flu shots have the wrong seriotype this year.  Pookie pookie.

> >> >Uncle Al's Linda caught a piece and spent a week near death.
Uncle
> >Al
> >> >caught it and had a few days of runny nose - Pauling's Vitamin C
> >> >titration works.  A bottle of 100 500 mg Vitamin C tablets and a
roll
> >> >of paper towels is not so bad.

> >> Uncle Al commits the fallacy of "post hoc, ergo propter hoc."

> >  http://tinyurl.com/wu45

> The results of an unblinded trial, based on self-reporting of
> symptoms, with the experimental group and control groups observed
> during different seasons, published by chiropractors notwithstanding,
> I never made a claim either way about the effectiveness of vitamin C
> in the prevention or treatment of upper respiratory infections. I'm
> just posting a simple reminder that most things aren't as simple nor
> straightforward as they may seem.

I agree, hit the related article link and a whole slew of abstracts
report a somewhat mixed bag. The majority however does appear to come
down on the side of Vitamin C (and E) attenuating the severity.

Phil Holman



Wed, 17 May 2006 01:14:21 GMT
 A TRUE love story

Quote:




> > >Flu shots have the wrong seriotype this year.  Pookie pookie.

> > >Uncle Al's Linda caught a piece and spent a week near death.  Uncle Al
> > >caught it and had a few days of runny nose - Pauling's Vitamin C
> > >titration works.  A bottle of 100 500 mg Vitamin C tablets and a roll
> > >of paper towels is not so bad.

> > Uncle Al commits the fallacy of "post hoc, ergo propter hoc."

> Fine.  Catch the flu and ignore Pauling's observations.

> Your white {*filter*} cells use ascorbate to reduce molecular oxygen to
> superoxide and hydrogen peroxide.  Phagocitized germs and viruses are
> blasted to death therewith.  Four or five days into this cellular
> immunity attack, hum{*filter*}immunity comes to speed and either you
> overcome the infection or you die.  Now you have a choice.

> You can burn up to 15 g/day of ascorbate and never have much of an
> infection develop.  You can get by with the FDA-recommended daily
> allowance of 0.06 g/day of ascorbate and suffer a massive infection
> plus the tissue damage concomitant with it, plus advantitious
> bacterial infections thereafter (green snot, colored by a
> copper-containing oxygenase).

> The Pauling observation is straighforward:

>    1) Do not do it if you are prone to oxalate kidney stones.
>    2) Check with a physician first.
>    3) Eat a 500 mg tablet plus a glass of water every half hour until
> you get belly rumbling (magensprachen).
>    4) Cut ingestion rate to half and half again as appropriate.
>    5) If you overdo the Vitamin C you get diarrhea.  Eat less of it.
> There is a huge safety margin.
>    6) The most monstrous evil flue rapidly recedes to a case of the
> sniffles and a lot of peeing.

> Uncle Al has not been poleaxed by a cold or the flue in at least 15
> years.  No flu shots (the government is in charge).  Th cheapest
> mass-produced Vitamin C is the ticket.  Draw your own conclusions.

 I've found C to be quite effective, but do it on first sign of
symptoms.
Not only is it more effective, but the first half of the titration can
be quite painful.  You don't want severe diarrhea along with
full-blown influenza.
 Hanson's method is extremely effective, I've found at least in colds.
 This was using otc intranasal zinc gluconium.
 BTW what type of solvent is used in the oxide/acetate system?

-Synthon



Wed, 17 May 2006 05:55:03 GMT
 A TRUE love story

Quote:
> Uncle Al wrote
> > Uncle Al has not been poleaxed by a cold or the flue in at least 15
> > years.  No flu shots (the government is in charge).  Th cheapest
> > mass-produced Vitamin C is the ticket.  Draw your own conclusions.

>  I've found C to be quite effective, but do it on first sign of
> symptoms.
> Not only is it more effective, but the first half of the titration can
> be quite painful.  You don't want severe diarrhea along with
> full-blown influenza.
>  Hanson's method is extremely effective, I've found at least in colds.
>  This was using otc intranasal zinc gluconium.
>  BTW what type of solvent is used in the oxide/acetate system?
> -Synthon

yo, Synthon,
It's simply a fine suspension of stochiometrically semi-neutralized
ZnO with HAc in water, distilled or tap. ZnO-conc ~< 5% w/w.
The remaining half of the ZnO will over time will "decoagulate" and
form a very fine white opaque suspension of ZnO particles, that may
be functional or not, but these ZnO/Zn(OH)2 type xx are buffers and
convenient as a color indicator to show whereto you have smeared the
concoction onto. There may be a dynamic equilibrium here at work of
ZnO <--> Zn(OH)2 <--> HO-Zn-Ac <--> ZnAc2 <---> Zn2+, forming
that fine white suspension in accord with temperature fluctuations.

It is believed that Zn(OH)O- or Zn(Ac)O- particles can deliver the Zn++
easier to the effective proteins that supposedly have the ability to
inactivate the virus, than when Zn2+ is more strongly bonded in the
chelated form of the gluconate. Hence the belief that non sequestered
forms of Zn are more effective that the chelated ones.
Clear solutions of fully ionized Zn2+ as in ZnAc2 are too astringent on
mucous skin and hurt like a son of a {*filter*} upon topical application.

May that be as is, I really give a flying {*filter*} about theory as long as
the "recipe" works and does the intended job.
Let enviro turds invent "potential" theories and Einstein disciples concoct
stories as theories and happily continue with and in their mental and
physical suffering.... Let them safffaaaahhha........ahahahahanson



Wed, 17 May 2006 13:22:28 GMT
 A TRUE love story

: The Pauling observation is straighforward:

:    1) Do not do it if you are prone to oxalate kidney stones.

Well, I'm out...

--
--
William "Dave" Thweatt
Robert E. Welch Postdoct{*filter*}Fellow
Chemistry Department
Rice University
Houston, TX




Mon, 22 May 2006 03:02:28 GMT
 A TRUE love story

Quote:

> Uncle Al's Linda caught a piece and spent a week near death.  Uncle Al
> caught it and had a few days of runny nose - Pauling's Vitamin C
> titration works.  A bottle of 100 500 mg Vitamin C tablets and a roll
> of paper towels is not so bad.

The Mexican Americans (i.e. just about everybody in your
neighborhood, Al) use a bottle of vitamin E and garlic pills
(or garlic cloves swallowed whole) at the first sign of
catching flu, and they swear it works "everytime". I don't
know about the garlic, but is vitamin E as good as C?

--

     sartarAshi ro az sare kachale mA mikhAd yAd
     begireh.



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