Canker Sore Attack 
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 Canker Sore Attack

Help, my mouth has been invaded :-)

About 6 days ago, I developed two {*filter*} and mean-looking canker sores on
the inside of my lips (one on top lip, one of the bottom lip).  You know
the {*filter*} ones, they're jsut in the right place so that your teeth rub up
against them when you talk or eat, driving you slowly insane with the
pain :-)

Well, three days ago I bought some OTC medication (Orajel Mouth-Aid).  It
does numb the pain a little, but only for about 20 to 30 minutes, and hasn't
seemed to help with the sores themselves.

Well, tonight I noticed another one forming.  I'm most unhappy.

Questions:

What exactly are these things caused by?  I've had em from time to time
all my life (dont' we all), but this is the first batch of several that I
can remember.  Are they possibly a symtom of an STD?  As far as I know,
I'm clean, and it's been about 20 months since I was last {*filter*}ly active.

Is there anything OTC that will be effective and getting rid of these
damn things before I go insane? :-)  Or should I just wait 'em out?

Anything that will help to prevent their return?

Thanks so much for yout help. :-)

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Sun, 30 Jun 1996 15:14:05 GMT
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Quote:

>Help, my mouth has been invaded :-)

>About 6 days ago, I developed two {*filter*} and mean-looking canker sores on
>the inside of my lips (one on top lip, one of the bottom lip).  You know
>the {*filter*} ones, they're jsut in the right place so that your teeth rub up
>against them when you talk or eat, driving you slowly insane with the
>pain :-)

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Quote:

>Is there anything OTC that will be effective and getting rid of these
>damn things before I go insane? :-)  Or should I just wait 'em out?

I used to get canker sores all the time when I was small, and all
I could do was wait them out.  Fortunately, I don't get them as
frequently as I used to, but when I do....they are bad.

I have found that eating plain yogurt definitely helps mine go
away fast.  I try to eat a few tablespoons every day to help keep
them away, but usually end up waiting until one starts to appear,
then start eating it daily.  This usually helps keeping the sore
from getting any larger and makes it go away *much* quicker.

Hope this helps!

David



Sun, 30 Jun 1996 22:12:16 GMT
 Canker Sore Attack
I find vitamins C and B make canker sores go away, and since I started
taking them daily, no longer get the sores.  I also find that for me,
eating sugar makes me more likely to get them.
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Mon, 01 Jul 1996 11:13:53 GMT
 Canker Sore Attack
Quote:

>Help, my mouth has been invaded :-)

( Stuff deleted)

Quote:
>Is there anything OTC that will be effective and getting rid of these
>damn things before I go insane? :-)  Or should I just wait 'em out?

>Anything that will help to prevent their return?

Sores of this nature are often caused by a deficiency of the enzyme Lysine.  
Lysine is available from healthfood and nutrition stores.

Avoid citrus fruit and vitamin C until they heal.  

Greg Smith
NCR Corporation
GPPG Services Development


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Tue, 02 Jul 1996 22:12:05 GMT
 Canker Sore Attack


Quote:
>>Is there anything OTC that will be effective and getting rid of these
>>damn things before I go insane? :-)  Or should I just wait 'em out?
>>Anything that will help to prevent their return?

>Sores of this nature are often caused by a deficiency of the enzyme Lysine.  
>Lysine is available from healthfood and nutrition stores.

Lysine is an amino acid, not an enzyme, and there's no reason to think
that either canker sores or {*filter*}herpes lesions (distinct phenomena
which are often confused) are helped by taking lysine.

Quote:
>Avoid citrus fruit and vitamin C until they heal.  

If you're taking vitamin C in a non-chewable tablet or capsule, it's not going
to irritate a canker sore.

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Steve Dyer



Thu, 04 Jul 1996 11:46:33 GMT
 Canker Sore Attack

: >Help, my mouth has been invaded :-)
: >
: ( Stuff deleted)

: >Is there anything OTC that will be effective and getting rid of these
: >damn things before I go insane? :-)  Or should I just wait 'em out?
: >
: >Anything that will help to prevent their return?
: >
: Sores of this nature are often caused by a deficiency of the enzyme Lysine.  
: Lysine is available from healthfood and nutrition stores.

Lysine is an amino acid.  I am not aware of any enzymatic activity of lysine.

: Avoid citrus fruit and vitamin C until they heal.  

: Greg Smith
: NCR Corporation
: GPPG Services Development


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: Opinions expressed don't necessarily reflect
: the views or policies of AT&T/NCR

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Thu, 04 Jul 1996 12:48:57 GMT
 Canker Sore Attack


: >>Is there anything OTC that will be effective and getting rid of these
: >>damn things before I go insane? :-)  Or should I just wait 'em out?
: >>Anything that will help to prevent their return?
: >>
: >Sores of this nature are often caused by a deficiency of the enzyme Lysine.  
: >Lysine is available from healthfood and nutrition stores.

: Lysine is an amino acid, not an enzyme, and there's no reason to think
: that either canker sores or {*filter*}herpes lesions (distinct phenomena
: which are often confused) are helped by taking lysine.

: >Avoid citrus fruit and vitamin C until they heal.  

: If you're taking vitamin C in a non-chewable tablet or capsule, it's not going
: to irritate a canker sore.

: --
: Steve Dyer

According to my doctor,  the sores thrive in an acidic body chemistry
- thus the need to avoid introducing additional acids.  I have used
Tincture of Benzoine applied directly to the sores.  It's a pretty
severe astringent which dries up the sores after one or two
applications.  It is an EXTREMELY UNPLEASANT treatment,  and the label
on the bottle is a definite "DO NOT LOOK AT _HAPPY FUN BALL_" trip.
Only someone who suffers from this affliction can understand why I
would go to such extremes  (one of the docs my wife worked with
suggested the treatment).  I had a dentist who offered to chemically
burn them out.  Since mouth tissue heals quickly and doesn't scar,  it
might be thw way to go.

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Dan Mercer                                            Applications + Plus

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Sat, 06 Jul 1996 03:18:23 GMT
 Canker Sore Attack

Quote:
>p.DaytonOH.NCR.COM>
>Newsgroup: sci.med
>Organization: NCR/AT&T

>>Help, my mouth has been invaded :-)

>( Stuff deleted)
>>Is there anything OTC that will be effective and getting rid of these
>>damn things before I go insane? :-)  Or should I just wait 'em out?

>>Anything that will help to prevent their return?

>Sores of this nature are often caused by a deficiency of the enzyme Lysine.
>Lysine is available from healthfood and nutrition stores.
>Avoid citrus fruit and vitamin C until they heal.

Thanks for the info.....I stopped smoking on Nov 1, and almost
immediately got a mouthful of sores, bleeding gums, and inflamed taste
buds on my tongue.  I went to my dentist, who perscribed a Nystatin
mouth rinse which didn't even *touch* the problem for more than a few
minutes....was referred to an {*filter*}surgeon who didn't have a clue
(that'll be $56.00, thank you very much!), and tried two other mouth
rinse preparations recommended by pharmacists, with only minimal and
temporary relief.  This lasted almost 6 weeks!!!  Eventually, the actual
sores went (mostly) away, but my gums continued to bleed while brushing
- and I mean they *bled*!!!

Ahem....I "fell off the wagon" on Dec. 30 - (hey, it'll last longer next
time!)....weirdly enough, the mouth problems have completely disappeared
since I resumed my {*filter*}ion....<g>

Got any clue as to the relationship?  I'll remember the Lysine, for my
next attempt!

 * OLX 2.1 TD * How much deeper would the ocean BE without sponges?



Fri, 05 Jul 1996 14:25:00 GMT
 Canker Sore Attack

DY>Newsgroup: sci.med
DY>Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA



DY>>>Is there anything OTC that will be effective and getting rid of these
DY>>>damn things before I go insane? :-)  Or should I just wait 'em out?
DY>>>Anything that will help to prevent their return?
DY>>>
DY>>Sores of this nature are often caused by a deficiency of the enzyme Lysine.
DY>>Lysine is available from healthfood and nutrition stores.

DY>Lysine is an amino acid, not an enzyme, and there's no reason to think
DY>that either canker sores or {*filter*}herpes lesions (distinct phenomena
DY>which are often confused) are helped by taking lysine.

DY>>Avoid citrus fruit and vitamin C until they heal.

DY>If you're taking vitamin C in a non-chewable tablet or capsule, it's not goi
DY>to irritate a canker sore.

Oh.  Well, geeez, Steve - can you help us out, on this, then?

 * OLX 2.1 TD * See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil, have no fun...



Fri, 05 Jul 1996 14:25:00 GMT
 Canker Sore Attack
Avoiding citrus fruits definitely reduced the frequency of my canker
sore attacks.

BTW, don't you justy hate it when you get a 3-sigma attack, and there
are 4 or 5 sores going at the same time?

Louis A. D'Amario

Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Pasadena, CA



Sat, 06 Jul 1996 04:54:52 GMT
 Canker Sore Attack

Quote:

>>Help, my mouth has been invaded :-)

>( Stuff deleted)

>>Is there anything OTC that will be effective and getting rid of these
>>damn things before I go insane? :-)  Or should I just wait 'em out?

>>Anything that will help to prevent their return?

>Sores of this nature are often caused by a deficiency of the enzyme Lysine.  

Canker sores CAN be caused by a bacterial infection, in which case they
can be cured by antibiotics.  I once had a series of painful canker sores
that just wouldn't go away following some {*filter*}surgery for a {*filter*} cyst
behind one wisdom tooth.  I'm sure there was some infection involved in the
cyst, since there was a constant terrible taste in my mouth on that side.
I went back to the dentist and he prescribed penicillin for the possible
infection.  He told me that canker sores can be caused by bacteria when there
is already some other infection present in the mouth, but not to count on
having the antibiotic help.  It did, though.  The canker sores cleared up
almost immediately, along with the evil taste.  This is probably not your
problem, but it's something to consider, especially if you have any kind
of unattended dental problem that could be serving as a resevoir of infection.

Incidentally, the incident I described above was the ONLY time I remember
wondering if canker sores could be contagious: my husband got 'em shortly
after I did.  I don't remember if he took penicillin too or if his just
went away on their own.  It's been a number of years.  
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Sun, 07 Jul 1996 03:41:18 GMT
 Canker Sore Attack
        I have been told that canker sores appear when a person is
under severe stress.  Therefore avoiding stress would prevent them.
My dentist said that the medications available to treat them do not
work.  They'll last ~10 days no matter what you do.  
        I have had a lot of sucess with Zilactin which is
available at any pharmacy.  It burns at first but forms a film over
the sore that prevents acidic foods from irritating it and helps it
to heal faster.  Sometimes when the canker sores have gotten
unbareable I have had my doctor "burn" them out using a silver nitrate
stick.  It is very painful at first but then heals in 2-3 days.

-Warren
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Wed, 10 Jul 1996 14:12:22 GMT
 Canker Sore Attack
:       I have been told that canker sores appear when a person is
: under severe stress.  Therefore avoiding stress would prevent them.
: My dentist said that the medications available to treat them do not
: work.  They'll last ~10 days no matter what you do.  

Canker sores have bothered me for quite a long time years ago.  I don't have
any scientific proof of its cause or how to relief/cure it.  I found that I
get canker sores when I eat too many dry/fried foods and have little vegatible
in my diet.  I have been eating Acidophilus and Yougert to reduce my canker
sore sessions to nearly NIL.

This method was introduced from a book called "Natural Healing".  It works
well for me.



Sat, 13 Jul 1996 04:00:38 GMT
 Canker Sore Attack

Quote:
> Lysine is an amino acid, not an enzyme, and there's no reason to think
> that either canker sores or {*filter*}herpes lesions (distinct phenomena
> which are often confused) are helped by taking lysine.

How do you tell the difference between the two phenomena?
Herpes are contagious, and canker sores are not, correct?

            -- Matt



Wed, 17 Jul 1996 02:05:26 GMT
 
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