Meanings and roots of the Greek word "anthropos"?
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clau
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 Meanings and roots of the Greek word "anthropos"? Hello What are the meanings and the roots of the Greek word "anthropos"?
Anc.Myc. a-to-ro-po
I have found 3 versions:
1)from word "dr?ps" (genitive dr?pos) derived from verb "dra-?, dr?"
= to act , to do
from which:"the being who acts".
2)from "anr" (genitive andros) = "male human being"
+ "?ps" (gn. ?pos)= sight, view?, face
from which: "the being who has the appareance of a "male human being"
".
3)from "ano" = upwards
+ "tropein" (a word of this family) = turn
+ ?ps (a word of this family)= idea of "to look at"
from which: "the being who turns his face upwards"
(version from one of my Greek student(I am a french Professor of Law)
: folk etymology???)
Near this version 3 i have read on the web:
Quote: >Ammonius
>derives *anthropos* from that fact that man looks up at what he sees
>(*anathrei ho opope*; cf. Plato Cratylus 399c); or articulates his
voice
>(*kata to diarthroun ten opa*) or because his eyes are on top (*ano
ekhein
>tous opas*; the Scholiast on Odyssey I, 320 gives the same etymology
for
>the Homeric word *anopaia*).
>Erasmus has another etymology of anthropos, from "anatropos",
>reminding us that, unlike wild animals, we are always looking up, not
down. Quote: >Plato's Cratylus 399 C here Socrates' suggests that the name
>anthropos indicates that the other animals do not examine, or
consider but
>look up at (anathrei) any of the things that they see, but man has no
>sooner seen ...then he looks up and considers what he has seen.
Therefore
>of all the animals man alone is rightly called man (anthropos)
because he
>looks up at (anathrei) what he has seen (opope)
Which version is the most plausible? Why? Have you other versions?
Thanks for your answers.
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| Tue, 04 Jan 2005 18:57:37 GMT |
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Peter T. Daniel
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Meanings and roots of the Greek word "anthropos"? Quote:
> Hello
> What are the meanings and the roots of the Greek word "anthropos"?
> Anc.Myc. a-to-ro-po
> I have found 3 versions:
> 1)from word "dr?ps" (genitive dr?pos) derived from verb "dra-?, dr?"
> = to act , to do
> from which:"the being who acts".
> 2)from "anr" (genitive andros) = "male human being"
> + "?ps" (gn. ?pos)= sight, view?, face
> from which: "the being who has the appareance of a "male human being"
> ".
> 3)from "ano" = upwards
> + "tropein" (a word of this family) = turn
> + ?ps (a word of this family)= idea of "to look at"
> from which: "the being who turns his face upwards"
> (version from one of my Greek student(I am a french Professor of Law)
> : folk etymology???)
> Near this version 3 i have read on the web:
> >Ammonius
> >derives *anthropos* from that fact that man looks up at what he sees
> >(*anathrei ho opope*; cf. Plato Cratylus 399c); or articulates his
> voice
> >(*kata to diarthroun ten opa*) or because his eyes are on top (*ano
> ekhein
> >tous opas*; the Scholiast on Odyssey I, 320 gives the same etymology
> for
> >the Homeric word *anopaia*).
> >Erasmus has another etymology of anthropos, from "anatropos",
> >reminding us that, unlike wild animals, we are always looking up, not
> down.
> >Plato's Cratylus 399 C here Socrates' suggests that the name
> >anthropos indicates that the other animals do not examine, or
> consider but
> >look up at (anathrei) any of the things that they see, but man has no
> >sooner seen ...then he looks up and considers what he has seen.
> Therefore
> >of all the animals man alone is rightly called man (anthropos)
> because he
> >looks up at (anathrei) what he has seen (opope)
> Which version is the most plausible? Why?
Considering that neither Erasmus nor Plato knew anything about Indo-European, why would you even consider them alongside those by philologists? --
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| Tue, 04 Jan 2005 19:32:32 GMT |
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mike
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Meanings and roots of the Greek word "anthropos"?
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>> Hello
>> What are the meanings and the roots of the Greek word "anthropos"?
>> Anc.Myc. a-to-ro-po
>> I have found 3 versions:
>> 1)from word "dr?ps" (genitive dr?pos) derived from verb "dra-?, dr?"
>> = to act , to do
>> from which:"the being who acts".
>> 2)from "anr" (genitive andros) = "male human being"
>> + "?ps" (gn. ?pos)= sight, view?, face
>> from which: "the being who has the appareance of a "male human being"
>> ". 3)from "ano" = upwards
>> + "tropein" (a word of this family) = turn
>> + ?ps (a word of this family)= idea of "to look at"
>> from which: "the being who turns his face upwards" (version from one
>> of my Greek student(I am a french Professor of Law)
>> : folk etymology???) Near this version 3 i have read on the web:
>> >Ammonius
>> >derives *anthropos* from that fact that man looks up at what he sees
>> >(*anathrei ho opope*; cf. Plato Cratylus 399c); or articulates his
>> >voice (*kata to diarthroun ten opa*) or because his eyes are on top
>> >(*ano ekhein tous opas*; the Scholiast on Odyssey I, 320 gives the
>> >same etymology for the Homeric word *anopaia*).
>> >Erasmus has another etymology of anthropos, from "anatropos",
>> >reminding us that, unlike wild animals, we are always looking up, not
>> >down.
>> >Plato's Cratylus 399 C here Socrates' suggests that the name
>> >anthropos indicates that the other animals do not examine, or
>> >consider but look up at (anathrei) any of the things that they see,
>> >but man has no sooner seen ...then he looks up and considers what he
>> >has seen. Therefore of all the animals man alone is rightly called
>> >man (anthropos) because he looks up at (anathrei) what he has seen
>> >(opope)
>> Which version is the most plausible? Why?
> Considering that neither Erasmus nor Plato knew anything about
> Indo-European, why would you even consider them alongside those by
> philologists?
peter, in this group the indo-european model should be seen as an hypothesis. though it uses science method, language study isn't a science. you have to scholastically consider what claude has suggested. let the certain and rightious rule talk radio.
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| Wed, 05 Jan 2005 01:10:14 GMT |
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Rich Alderso
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Meanings and roots of the Greek word "anthropos"? You're an idiot, aren't you?
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"You get what anybody gets. You get a lifetime." --Death, of the Endless
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| Wed, 05 Jan 2005 16:53:57 GMT |
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mike
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Meanings and roots of the Greek word "anthropos"?
Quote: > You're an idiot, aren't you?
why do you think so? i mean, really? you're a priest? have you never been allowed to wonder how convenient it
was to invent indo-european? and have you never thought that in a hobbiest
newsgroup like this nothing is going to be lost by taking the chance of
being wrong.
i doubt you've ever even read a dictionary to see how it was constructed. i
don't think you've ever had to translate a difficult passage and wondered
how the author was using a word... that is what plato is doing... looking
for the conceptual basis for using the word at all. it's not what we do, as
word students, but it has to be a part of the final judgement of a meaning
for the word. wretch, it's not like you are doing real science on an
observable object called language. for sure you are flat minded people.
engineers without a science.
i don't mind the personal attacks, but you guys accuse me of being stupid
and uneducated and then post the most mindless, stupid and uneducated
things to me. what have you said in "you're an idiot..." which says
anything about language?
peter is funny and mean, but he really does try to help people, and, in his
work he does have to play in language. so when he says something like "no
one could be happy before jesus was born", or something like "plato wasn't
qualified to speak on language because he didn't know about indo-european",
i assume that he's been sniffing glue.
wrench, please don't respond to this, it's really not written for you. go
back to fixing your 66 mustang. words don't need you.
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| Wed, 05 Jan 2005 18:44:36 GMT |
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Peter T. Daniel
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Meanings and roots of the Greek word "anthropos"? Quote:
> peter is funny and mean, but he really does try to help people, and, in his
> work he does have to play in language. so when he says something like "no
> one could be happy before jesus was born", or something like "plato wasn't
> qualified to speak on language because he didn't know about indo-european",
> i assume that he's been sniffing glue.
I've generally been ignoring mike for the five years or so that I've known of him, but this is too much. I have never said anything like either of those statements. In the present case, I said something like "Plato wasn't qualified to
speak on Greek etymology because he didn't know about Indo-European."
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| Wed, 05 Jan 2005 19:21:37 GMT |
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mike
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Meanings and roots of the Greek word "anthropos"?
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>> peter is funny and mean, but he really does try to help people, and,
>> in his work he does have to play in language. so when he says
>> something like "no one could be happy before jesus was born", or
>> something like "plato wasn't qualified to speak on language because he
>> didn't know about indo-european", i assume that he's been sniffing
>> glue.
> I've generally been ignoring mike for the five years or so that I've
> known of him, but this is too much. I have never said anything like
> either of those statements.
> In the present case, I said something like "Plato wasn't qualified to
> speak on Greek etymology because he didn't know about Indo-European."
peter, you're cute, but sort of ignorable yourself. if you want to be more than a county reference librarian, you should take more risks and learn to play the game. greek etymology could only be language. there's nothing else for it to be
here. plato's is a discussion of the way words work in language. plato
would tell this to you, then sit on your face.
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| Thu, 06 Jan 2005 04:32:13 GMT |
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Steve
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Meanings and roots of the Greek word "anthropos"? Quote:
> Hello > What are the meanings and the roots of the Greek word "anthropos"?
hi im kinda bored to read throu the whole thread what we've learnt in school is that the word "anthropos" derives from ano(=upwards) + throsko(=look)... so anthropos(=human) is the one who looks up
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| Wed, 12 Jan 2005 21:57:54 GMT |
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Bobby D. Bryan
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Meanings and roots of the Greek word "anthropos"? Quote:
> You're an idiot, aren't you?
Still, it's nice to see that AOL hasn't _completely_ lost it to WebTV. Bobby Bryant
Ausitn, Texas
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| Sun, 30 Jan 2005 19:17:28 GMT |
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mike
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Meanings and roots of the Greek word "anthropos"?
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>> You're an idiot, aren't you?
> Still, it's nice to see that AOL hasn't _completely_ lost it to WebTV.
> Bobby Bryant
> Ausitn, Texas
thanks for the horse laugh, but i'm a regular doctor. is there a horse doctor in the house?
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